Q: Is taking an agnostic position on unknown things, a matter of safety (as the quote above implies) or of sensibility aligned with current knowledge of reality?But go head and remain completely agnostic, for safety's sake
Agnosticism. For safety or sensibilities' sake?
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Agnosticism. For safety or sensibilities' sake?
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Re: Agnosticism. For safety or sensibilities' sake?
Post #11How are you defining "beliefs"?Mae von H wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:39 amIf you have no beliefs, how are you a theist?William wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:59 am [Replying to Mae von H in post #8]
I think Natural Theism appears to be the most sensible position within the Theistic setting.what theology do you believe?
I have no beliefs so to speak, at least not religious ones.
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Re: Agnosticism. For safety or sensibilities' sake?
Post #12Well you used the word. What do you mean by it?William wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:39 amHow are you defining "beliefs"?Mae von H wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:39 amIf you have no beliefs, how are you a theist?William wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:59 am [Replying to Mae von H in post #8]
I think Natural Theism appears to be the most sensible position within the Theistic setting.what theology do you believe?
I have no beliefs so to speak, at least not religious ones.
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Re: Agnosticism. For safety or sensibilities' sake?
Post #13I think that it is logically sound to conclude that The Universe is a created thing. That means that there is a creator.Mae von H wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:29 pmWell you used the word. What do you mean by it?William wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:39 amHow are you defining "beliefs"?Mae von H wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:39 amIf you have no beliefs, how are you a theist?William wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:59 am [Replying to Mae von H in post #8]
I think Natural Theism appears to be the most sensible position within the Theistic setting.what theology do you believe?
I have no beliefs so to speak, at least not religious ones.
If that qualifies as belief, then that is what I believe.
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Re: Agnosticism. For safety or sensibilities' sake?
Post #14Perfect! I agree!William wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 8:06 pmI think that it is logically sound to conclude that The Universe is a created thing. That means that there is a creator.Mae von H wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:29 pmWell you used the word. What do you mean by it?William wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:39 amHow are you defining "beliefs"?Mae von H wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:39 amIf you have no beliefs, how are you a theist?William wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:59 am [Replying to Mae von H in post #8]
I think Natural Theism appears to be the most sensible position within the Theistic setting.what theology do you believe?
I have no beliefs so to speak, at least not religious ones.
If that qualifies as belief, then that is what I believe.
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Re: Agnosticism. For safety or sensibilities' sake?
Post #15I should think so, but it would be assumption to say we agree on the details, would you agree?Mae von H wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:42 amPerfect! I agree!William wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 8:06 pmI think that it is logically sound to conclude that The Universe is a created thing. That means that there is a creator.Mae von H wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:29 pmWell you used the word. What do you mean by it?William wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:39 amHow are you defining "beliefs"?Mae von H wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:39 amIf you have no beliefs, how are you a theist?William wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:59 am [Replying to Mae von H in post #8]
I think Natural Theism appears to be the most sensible position within the Theistic setting.what theology do you believe?
I have no beliefs so to speak, at least not religious ones.
If that qualifies as belief, then that is what I believe.
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Re: Agnosticism. For safety or sensibilities' sake?
Post #16Yes, again I agree. But agreeing on the foundation is pleasant, no?William wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:12 pmI should think so, but it would be assumption to say we agree on the details, would you agree?Mae von H wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:42 amPerfect! I agree!William wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 8:06 pmI think that it is logically sound to conclude that The Universe is a created thing. That means that there is a creator.Mae von H wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:29 pmWell you used the word. What do you mean by it?William wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:39 amHow are you defining "beliefs"?Mae von H wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:39 amIf you have no beliefs, how are you a theist?William wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:59 am [Replying to Mae von H in post #8]
I think Natural Theism appears to be the most sensible position within the Theistic setting.what theology do you believe?
I have no beliefs so to speak, at least not religious ones.
If that qualifies as belief, then that is what I believe.
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Re: Agnosticism. For safety or sensibilities' sake?
Post #17All we have to do is get reality to agree to your vote that it's created and we've got something! Let's start voting for all kinds of realities - like lets vote that people don't die, and that ice cream is free of calories!Mae von H wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 6:27 amYes, again I agree. But agreeing on the foundation is pleasant, no?William wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:12 pmI should think so, but it would be assumption to say we agree on the details, would you agree?Mae von H wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:42 amPerfect! I agree!William wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 8:06 pmI think that it is logically sound to conclude that The Universe is a created thing. That means that there is a creator.Mae von H wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:29 pmWell you used the word. What do you mean by it?William wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:39 amHow are you defining "beliefs"?Mae von H wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:39 amIf you have no beliefs, how are you a theist?William wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:59 am [Replying to Mae von H in post #8]
I think Natural Theism appears to be the most sensible position within the Theistic setting.what theology do you believe?
I have no beliefs so to speak, at least not religious ones.
If that qualifies as belief, then that is what I believe.
“And do you think that unto such as you
A maggot-minded, starved, fanatic crew
God gave a secret, and denied it me?
Well, well—what matters it? Believe that, too!”
― Omar Khayyâm
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Re: Agnosticism. For safety or sensibilities' sake?
Post #18Reality doesn’t change according to our vote. We have to adjust our vote according to reality.boatsnguitars wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 8:10 amAll we have to do is get reality to agree to your vote that it's created and we've got something! Let's start voting for all kinds of realities - like lets vote that people don't die, and that ice cream is free of calories!Mae von H wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 6:27 amYes, again I agree. But agreeing on the foundation is pleasant, no?William wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:12 pmI should think so, but it would be assumption to say we agree on the details, would you agree?Mae von H wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:42 amPerfect! I agree!William wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 8:06 pmI think that it is logically sound to conclude that The Universe is a created thing. That means that there is a creator.Mae von H wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:29 pmWell you used the word. What do you mean by it?William wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:39 amHow are you defining "beliefs"?Mae von H wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:39 amIf you have no beliefs, how are you a theist?William wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:59 am [Replying to Mae von H in post #8]
I think Natural Theism appears to be the most sensible position within the Theistic setting.what theology do you believe?
I have no beliefs so to speak, at least not religious ones.
If that qualifies as belief, then that is what I believe.
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Re: Agnosticism. For safety or sensibilities' sake?
Post #19Aw, that's no fun. I guess you'll have to change your views on Creation, too...Mae von H wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 8:24 amReality doesn’t change according to our vote. We have to adjust our vote according to reality.boatsnguitars wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 8:10 amAll we have to do is get reality to agree to your vote that it's created and we've got something! Let's start voting for all kinds of realities - like lets vote that people don't die, and that ice cream is free of calories!Mae von H wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 6:27 amYes, again I agree. But agreeing on the foundation is pleasant, no?William wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:12 pmI should think so, but it would be assumption to say we agree on the details, would you agree?Mae von H wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:42 amPerfect! I agree!William wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 8:06 pmI think that it is logically sound to conclude that The Universe is a created thing. That means that there is a creator.Mae von H wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:29 pmWell you used the word. What do you mean by it?William wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:39 amHow are you defining "beliefs"?Mae von H wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:39 amIf you have no beliefs, how are you a theist?William wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:59 am [Replying to Mae von H in post #8]
I think Natural Theism appears to be the most sensible position within the Theistic setting.
I have no beliefs so to speak, at least not religious ones.
If that qualifies as belief, then that is what I believe.
“And do you think that unto such as you
A maggot-minded, starved, fanatic crew
God gave a secret, and denied it me?
Well, well—what matters it? Believe that, too!”
― Omar Khayyâm
A maggot-minded, starved, fanatic crew
God gave a secret, and denied it me?
Well, well—what matters it? Believe that, too!”
― Omar Khayyâm