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1. Why did God create anything at all?
2. What arena/space/other did God dwell within or upon before he first had to create it?
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POI wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2024 11:13 am 1. Why did God create anything at all?
God is creative. Asking why God created anything at all is like asking why a painter paints or why a poet writes. Creativity leads to creation.
POI wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2024 11:13 am 2. What arena/space/other did God dwell within or upon before he first had to create it?
According to Christianity, God is spirit. He exists, and always has existed, outside of the physical universe. To return to the painter analogy, this universe is the painting. God is the painter, looking at his work of art from outside of the frame.
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POI wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2024 11:13 am 1. Why did God create anything at all?
2. What arena/space/other did God dwell within or upon before he first had to create it?
Apparently He created, because He taught it was good.

And God saw everything that He had made and behold, it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning the sixth day.
Gen. 1:31

Paul says in God we exist. So, maybe the whole universe is actually something in God and there is no outside of eternal God.

And He made every nation of men of one blood, to live on all the face of the earth, ordaining fore-appointed seasons and boundaries of their dwelling, to seek the Lord, if perhaps they might feel after Him and might find Him, though indeed He not being far from each one of us. For in Him we live and move and exist, as also some of the poets among you have said, For we are also His offspring.
Acts 17:26-28

The eternal God is [your] dwelling-place, ...
Deut. 33:27
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POI wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2024 11:13 am 1. Why did God create anything at all?
Because he wanted to.
2. What arena/space/other did God dwell within or upon before he first had to create it?
A supernatural realm (heaven).

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Now, 2 counter questions..

1. Why would an unbeliever in God, concern himself with the motives of a God that he doesn't believe in?

2. Why would an unbeliever in God, concern himself with a dwelling place of a God that he doesn't believe in?
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SiNcE_1985 wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2024 8:10 pm Because he wanted to.
Why?
SiNcE_1985 wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2024 8:10 pm A supernatural realm (heaven).
Did God have to create that realm too, or did it always exist?
SiNcE_1985 wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2024 8:10 pm Now, 2 counter questions..
K.
SiNcE_1985 wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2024 8:10 pm 1. Why would an unbeliever in God, concern himself with the motives of a God that he doesn't believe in?
I've already told you. Why ask again?
SiNcE_1985 wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2024 8:10 pm 2. Why would an unbeliever in God, concern himself with a dwelling place of a God that he doesn't believe in?
I've already told you. Why ask again?
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bjs1 wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2024 5:39 pm According to Christianity, God is spirit. He exists, and always has existed, outside of the physical universe. To return to the painter analogy, this universe is the painting. God is the painter, looking at his work of art from outside of the frame.
This response only pushes the unanswered question back one step. God still had to 'dwell or exist' somewhere. Where exactly did God dwell or exist before he created it?
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1213 wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2024 4:29 am maybe the whole universe is actually something in God and there is no outside of eternal God.
Isn't this just a re-branded version of pantheism?
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POI wrote: Thu Dec 26, 2024 3:54 pm
SiNcE_1985 wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2024 8:10 pm Because he wanted to.
Why?
Why not?
Did God have to create that realm too, or did it always exist?
I don't know.
I've already told you. Why ask again?
The answer wasn't satisfactory enough.

I've already told you. Why ask again?
Same answer above.
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SiNcE_1985 wrote: Thu Dec 26, 2024 5:18 pm The answer wasn't satisfactory enough.
Too Bad. We cannot get everything we ask for in life. :(
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[Replying to POI in post #1]

1. I would say that God freely chose to create and chose to create what He did because he felt it was good.

2. This question doesn't make sense. A non-physical being cannot, by definition, dwell within something like physical beings do.

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