Hey Christian(s)

[POI]

I am, however, interested in proving my religion (Christianity) right.

For Debate: How might one actually go about proving Christianity right? Further, can and has Christianity already been proven, or, is it instead maybe a faith-based position?

[SiNcE_1985]

I am, however, interested in proving my religion (Christianity) right.

For Debate: How might one actually go about proving Christianity right?

Allow me to predict how this conversation will go..

So, you are asking the above question, and my response is...

My response: Well, POI... Christianity is proven true based upon what we (believers) believe is convincing/persuasive evidence of Jesus' Resurrection.

It is based upon the historicity of the Resurrection...and the preponderance of evidence which supports it, as to why we believe Christianity is true.

I predict your response will be..

Your response: Present this convincing/persuasive evidence for me/us.

My response: No, you simply asked a question and I provided an answer. If you wanted to discuss the topic, then you should have simply created a thread which asks for evidence supporting Christianity.

And no, I'm not interested in debating/discussing this with you, considering your poor showing on the KCA thread.

It is painfully obvious that most of these are spam thread/topics, with no serious considerations involved in getting to the truth.

Just sensationalized questions and topics.

Yeah, I digress.

Further, can and has Christianity already been proven

It can, and it has.

, or, is it instead maybe a faith-based position?

Reasonable faith.

[POI]

And no, I'm not interested in debating/discussing this with you, considering your poor showing on the KCA thread.

LOL! I created the KCA thread because you begged me to create it, (twice). I also informed you of my position prior, many times, remember? I also placed no positive claim in the OP of that thread, (for or against). I also informed you that if I would have been interested in such arguments, I would had already vigorously engaged in such threads long ago -- i.e. -- (viewtopic.php?t=38228). At very best, the KCA presents a position of generic deism, or an impersonal 'creator'. And I already told you I do not plant my flag upon positions which are not demonstrated, which is why I do not argue for or against abiogenesis either. Your continued strawmans, and empty/baseless claims to 'victory' are growing tiresome among all who exchange with you.

It is painfully obvious that most of these are spam thread/topics, with no serious considerations involved in getting to the truth.

This is the pot calling the kettle black. You make no effort to see if evolutionary biology is actually true. Likely because you would then need to, at bear minimum, have to pivot your current beliefs -- as they relate to the claims in Genesis.

Just sensationalized questions and topics.

Riiight... Then I guess you can tell me why the Bible does not actually endorse chattel slavery and slave breeding, just for starters. No need to do it in this thread. Feel free to tackle that thread, which is near the top here (viewtopic.php?t=40608). BTW, no Christian, including you, has given a rational defense to discredit the standing positions placed in the OP of that thread.

It can, and it has.

Give us your best example as to how it can and has been proven or demonstrated?

[SiNcE_1985]

LOL! I created the KCA thread because you begged me to create it, (twice). I also informed you of my position prior, many times, remember? I also placed no positive claim in the OP of that thread, (for or against). I also informed you that if I would have been interested in such arguments, I would had already vigorously engaged in such threads long ago -- i.e. -- (viewtopic.php?t=38228). At very best, the KCA presents a position of generic deism, or an impersonal 'creator'. And I already told you I do not plant my flag upon positions which are not demonstrated, which is why I do not argue for or against abiogenesis either. Your continued strawmans, and empty/baseless claims to 'victory' are growing tiresome among all who exchange with you.

Look at that, more effort into the justification of the thread, than the thread itself.

This is the pot calling the kettle black. You make no effort to see if evolutionary biology is actually true. Likely because you would then need to, at bear minimum, have to pivot your current beliefs -- as they relate to the claims in Genesis.

I'm simply not convinced. Kinda like how you are unconvinced with evidences for God and Christianity.

Riiight... Then I guess you can tell me why the Bible does not actually endorse chattel slavery and slave breeding, just for starters. No need to do it in this thread. Feel free to tackle that thread, which is near the top here (viewtopic.php?t=40608). BTW, no Christian, including you, has given a rational defense to discredit the standing positions placed in the OP of that thread.

That's not where the Spirit is moving me.

Give us your best example as to how it can and has been proven or demonstrated?

Sure, I can. But uh, not with you.

Learned my lesson.

[POI]

Look at that, more effort into the justification of the thread, than the thread itself.

This is because you know if you had created the thread yourself, I likely would not have engaged it, as it is of little interest to me.

I'm simply not convinced.

You cannot be convinced when you strawman the position.

That's not where the Spirit is moving me.

Which is code for.... I cannot refute the claims in that thread.

Sure, I can. But uh, not with you. Learned my lesson.

And yet, you have already given two responses... Here's a tip, for free.... If you do not wish to engage with certain interlocutor(s), then simply don't.

[SiNcE_1985]

This is because you know if you had created the thread yourself, I likely would not have engaged it, as it is of little interest to me.

That's cool.

Because it is sort of like the subject of evolution and particularly your Evilution thread..of very little interest to me.

Which is code for.... I cannot refute the claims in that thread.

Oh, is that what it is?

And yet, you have already given two responses... Here's a tip, for free.... If you do not wish to engage with certain interlocutor(s), then simply don't.

Thanks for those great words of wisdom, Confucius.

[POI]

[Replying to SiNcE_1985 in post #6]

This is now 3 responses from you in this thread....

[1213]

I am, however, interested in proving my religion (Christianity) right.

For Debate: How might one actually go about proving Christianity right?

I think it should start from defining what is Christianity.

[POI]

I am, however, interested in proving my religion (Christianity) right.

For Debate: How might one actually go about proving Christianity right?

I think it should start from defining what is Christianity.

Well, do you define yourself as a Christian? If so, what would you say you believe? And then, can you demonstrate the truth of your belief?

[1213]

Well, do you define yourself as a Christian? If so, what would you say you believe? And then, can you demonstrate the truth of your belief?

I would rather use the word a disciple of Jesus, which in Bible means also a Christian. And a disciple of Jesus is a person who remains in the word of Jesus. And it means, I believe what Jesus says in the Bible and I want to live according to his teachings.

And the way to know the truth is this:

Jesus therefore said to those Jews who had believed him, “If you remain in my word, then you are truly my disciples. You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.”
John 8:31-32

Jesus therefore answered them, "My teaching is not mine, but his who sent me. If anyone desires to do his will, he will know about the teaching, whether it is from God, or if I am speaking from myself.
John 7:16-17