Three Resurrection Questions

[Perspectivo]

1 Why did people believe John the Baptist rose from the dead?

2 If they were wrong about John's resurrection were they wrong about Jesus's?

3 If they were right about Jesus's resurrection were they right about John's?


1 When Paul and Barnabas performed miracles in a non-Jewish setting, the people interpreted the miracles with their cultural beliefs: Barnabas is Jupiter and Paul Mercurius, Acts 14:12-22.
When Jesus performs miracles in a Jewish setting,Herod as well as others said, "John the Baptist must be resurrected to have such powers", Matthew 14:2, Luke 9:7. There is nothing in 1st century Jewish cultural beliefs to support this conclusion. Their cultural beliefs would have assumed a miracle maker was a prophet.

2 If John didn't rise from the dead, even though people were saying he did, why should Jesus' resurrection be accepted just because people were saying he did? Maybe the original rumor inspired the latter.

3 If people were correct about Jesus' resurrection since it had multiple attestation, were they correct about John's resurrection since it had multiple attestation? The Bible doesn't say John didn't rise from the dead.

[Hfighter30]

I will tried to answer this question as best as i could. And know that English is not my first language so please bear with me. I will first say that people believed John the Baptist rose from the dead, its because one person, King Herod. Truth be told, i don't know and don't care why Herod believe that it's John the Baptist that rose from dead. But i believed because he feels guity and fear. Because he had killed John the Baptist that he think was 'a righteous and holy man'. Maybe he thinks because someone has the power rose from dead then that miraculous powers are at work in him. My source here is from The Bible: Matthew 14:1-2; Mark 6:14,16,20. For reference: https://snapinspire.com/john-the-baptis ... he-christ/ . The first 5 points maybe make him and his people believe that Jesus is John. People performed miracles in the Old Testament and nobody said 'somebody is doing miracles, ergo somebody rose from the dead to have the ability to do them' is because not everyone is King Herod. The key point is this belief is speculative and just 'rumour' from Herod.

For question number 2 and 3, rhe answer is no. If they were wrong about John's resurrection were they wrong about Jesus's? No. If they were right about Jesus's resurrection were they right about John's? No. John and Jesus is different as night is from day. They maybe have some relation in regard to their purpose, but their death is have nothing between each other. That is my answer and thank you!

[BrotherBerry]

1 Why did people believe John the Baptist rose from the dead?

2 If they were wrong about John's resurrection were they wrong about Jesus's?

3 If they were right about Jesus's resurrection were they right about John's?




I'm assuming the response to my first question will be : they thought John the Baptist rose from the dead because Jesus was performing miracles, , very well, but please explain why they would think that and please cite sources to support the reason. People performed miracles in the Old Testament and nobody said: somebody is doing miracles, ergo somebody rose from the dead to have the ability to do them.



I look forward to your answers and your sources.

Only Herod thought John rose from the dead.

[Perspectivo]

I will tried to answer this question as best as i could. And know that English is not my first language so please bear with me. I will first say that people believed John the Baptist rose from the dead, its because one person, King Herod. Truth be told, i don't know and don't care why Herod believe that it's John the Baptist that rose from dead. But i believed because he feels guity and fear. Because he had killed John the Baptist that he think was 'a righteous and holy man'. Maybe he thinks because someone has the power rose from dead then that miraculous powers are at work in him. My source here is from The Bible: Matthew 14:1-2; Mark 6:14,16,20. For reference: https://snapinspire.com/john-the-baptis ... he-christ/ . The first 5 points maybe make him and his people believe that Jesus is John. People performed miracles in the Old Testament and nobody said 'somebody is doing miracles, ergo somebody rose from the dead to have the ability to do them' is because not everyone is King Herod. The key point is this belief is speculative and just 'rumour' from Herod.

For question number 2 and 3, rhe answer is no. If they were wrong about John's resurrection were they wrong about Jesus's? No. If they were right about Jesus's resurrection were they right about John's? No. John and Jesus is different as night is from day. They maybe have some relation in regard to their purpose, but their death is have nothing between each other. That is my answer and thank you!

Hello Hfighter30

1) You said, only Herod believed John the Baptist rose from the dead and you don't care or know why, but maybe he felt guilty for killing John and it was a rumor.


Herod wasn't the only one who believed the rumor. People were saying John the Baptist rose from the dead, Luke 9:7. Also according to the disciples most people thought Jesus was John the Baptist back from the dead, Mark 8:28.

2) For my last two questions you said Jesus and John were different as night and day.

Why were people wrong about John's resurrection? People were saying John rose from the dead, and that they saw him back from the dead in the person of Jesus, even though they were different as night and day. John's resurrection has multiple attestation. People were saying it. The government was saying it. People were seeing John in the person of Jesus.

Don't apologize for your English. Look how many times I edited this post. English isn't my 1st language either
Your English is fine buddy. I'm mainly here to practice my English anyway, and also to learn about religion.

[Perspectivo]

1 Why did people believe John the Baptist rose from the dead?

2 If they were wrong about John's resurrection were they wrong about Jesus's?

3 If they were right about Jesus's resurrection were they right about John's?




I'm assuming the response to my first question will be : they thought John the Baptist rose from the dead because Jesus was performing miracles, , very well, but please explain why they would think that and please cite sources to support the reason. People performed miracles in the Old Testament and nobody said: somebody is doing miracles, ergo somebody rose from the dead to have the ability to do them.



I look forward to your answers and your sources.

Only Herod thought John rose from the dead.

Greetings BrotherBerry

People were saying John the baptist rose from the dead, Luke 9:7. It wasn't just Herod the fox.

[Hfighter30]

[Replying to Perspectivo in post #4]

Thanks for correcting me . You are right, Luke 9:7 and Mark 8:28 are clear that it was not only Herod who thought John had risen. However, I still believe the main point of my statement, even if I was wrong about who believed it. Luke 9:7 and Mark 8:28, say ‘some were saying’ and ‘others say.’ This still sound like speculation and rumor, not established fact. Even the disciples in Mark 8:28 just relay what ‘people’ are saying, they are not claiming to believe it themselves.

Number two, as for why people were wrong about John, John and Jesus is both powerful prophets who come from God. John prepared the way for Jesus. People know that John was a great prophet, maybe the greatest prophet before Jesus, as Jesus said himself in Matthew 11:11, ‘Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has risen no one greater than John the Baptist.’ So, when John is killd, and then Jesus appeared, also doing miracles and preaching powerfully, maybe some people think the power of God that resurrect John is working in John. I think they have not seen Jesus face too, they just speculate. And i think that John's resurrection did not not have multiple attestation. ‘Saying’ something actually doesn't make it true and a fact. People say many things that are not true.

[POI]

1 Why did people believe John the Baptist rose from the dead?

According to the Bible's account --- (which I find untrustworthy, but it will answer your question here) --- Particularly in the Gospel of Mark, people believed John the Baptist rose from the dead because King Herod Antipas, who had John beheaded, was so disturbed by Jesus' growing fame and miracles that he mistakenly thought Jesus was John the Baptist returned to life, attributing Jesus' power to John being resurrected; this is primarily due to Herod's guilt and fear over executing John, leading him to believe Jesus was John returned to perform miracles

2 If they were wrong about John's resurrection were they wrong about Jesus's?

Explained above.

3 If they were right about Jesus's resurrection were they right about John's?

Explained above.

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My turn... Why believe anyone has ever actually risen from the actual dead? And by "actual dead", I mean rigor mortis and "the smell" has set in.

[Perspectivo]

1 Why did people believe John the Baptist rose from the dead?

According to the Bible's account --- (which I find untrustworthy, but it will answer your question here) --- Particularly in the Gospel of Mark, people believed John the Baptist rose from the dead because King Herod Antipas, who had John beheaded, was so disturbed by Jesus' growing fame and miracles that he mistakenly thought Jesus was John the Baptist returned to life, attributing Jesus' power to John being resurrected; this is primarily due to Herod's guilt and fear over executing John, leading him to believe Jesus was John returned to perform miracles

2 If they were wrong about John's resurrection were they wrong about Jesus's?

Explained above.

3 If they were right about Jesus's resurrection were they right about John's?

Explained above.

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My turn... Why believe anyone has ever actually risen from the actual dead? And by "actual dead", I mean rigor mortis and "the smell" has set in.

People told Herod that John rose from the dead according to Luke 9:7-9. Herod heard people saying that John rose from the dead ...but Herod said, I had John kill, but who is this I'm hearing about...

Herod wasn't the only one saying and believing that John rose from the dead.

[POI]

[Replying to Perspectivo in post #8]

Why believe anyone ever actually rose from the actual dead at all?

[bjs1]

1 Why did people believe John the Baptist rose from the dead?

Jesus’ ministry began right as John’s ended, and there were clear similarities between the two of them. They were both wandering Jewish preachers who focused on repentance, faith, and the kingdom of God. They were also biologically related.

As John’s death became publicized, people who had never met either of the men could easily start a rumor that Jesus was John; that John had risen from the dead or not really died in the first place. Like things of this nature, this rumor seems to have died out rather quickly. We could compare it to the claim that Jesus rose from the dead. Unlike the rumor that John rose from the dead, the claim of Jesus’ resurrection has lasted for centuries.

2 If they were wrong about John's resurrection were they wrong about Jesus's?

There is no logical way to support that connection. It would be like saying, “Since Houston, Texas has an NBA team, does that mean Fort Worth does as well?” In logic, this is called a non-sequitur.

3 If they were right about Jesus's resurrection were they right about John's?

Again, this is a non-sequitur. Both claims could be true or false. Neither claim affects the other.