Is it possible?

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Can the Jehovah’s Witnesses ever win a disagreement concerning Jesus being Jehovah, or the Holy Spirit being the third person in the Godhead, or that man is composed of a body, soul and spirit, or there is a hell, or the doctrine of the Trinity without claiming that the translators of the K.J.B., N.I.V. Douay, Bishop’s Bible, Reformation Bible, Tindal, Wycliff Bibles and 100 others are all wrong in their Translations?

And that the 48 Translators of the King James, and the other 10 or so theologians that helped, and that commentators and translators like Matthew Henry, Adam Clark, Jamieson, Fausset, Brown, Erasmus, Walvoord, Zuck, Dr. Sproul, Wycliff, Les Feldick, Calvin, Macarther, Bede and I can name a thousand others were all wrong in translating the Hebrew and Greek Text? And that they all misunderstood what they were translating.
That is the argument the Jehovah’s Witnesses stand on; nobody has gotten it right except us. Is that possible?

The term brainwashing was first coined in the late '50s during the Korean War. It was used to explain how totalitarian regimes were able to indoctrinate American soldiers through a process of propaganda. Soon after that the Jehovah’s Witnesses decided to go from the teachings of the King James Bible to a new Bible called the New World Translation, and that twenty or so unknown and unnamed Translators who feared and loved the Divine Author transmitted Jehovah’s thoughts and declarations as accurately as possible.

And that these unknown translators have straightened out 2000 years of false teaching. Is this possible? Since the 1950s, and since the 1961 edition of the N.W.T. the Witnesses have had three more copyrights on a Bible they first claimed to “Transmit his (Jehovah's) thoughts and declarations as accurately as possible.” That is, until 1971, when they came out with a new copyright.

Brainwashing is the theory that a person’s core beliefs, ideas, affiliations, and values can be replaced, so much so that they cannot think critically or independently. So, here’s the question:

For the past 2000 years, has the Christian community been misled by the commentors and translators of the K.J.B., Bishop’s Bible, N.I.V., and all the other Bibles mentioned above? And that from the early 1950s when the N.W.T. came out, the Witnesses have finally straightened everyone and everything out? Is this possible?
Your thoughts:

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Can the Jehovah’s Witnesses ever win a disagreement concerning Jesus being Jehovah, or the Holy Spirit being the third person in the Godhead, ...

If Jesus is Jehovah and there is Holy Spirit, who is the third person in the Trinity?

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Can the Jehovah’s Witnesses ever win a disagreement concerning Jesus being Jehovah, or the Holy Spirit being the third person in the Godhead, ...

If Jesus is Jehovah and there is Holy Spirit, who is the third person in the Trinity?

The Father who is also called Jehovah or Yahweh.

Because no man has ever seen the Father, those in the Old Testament, men like Abraham, who sat down and ate with the LORD, Isaac, Jacob who wrestled with God, Moses who saw God's back side, Manoah and his wife the parents of Samson who spoke face to face with God, Adam walked with Jehovah, Joshua spoke to the LORD face to face, etc.

Use some common sense. If no man has ever seen the Father, yet many ate, and spoke to the LORD (Jehovah) face to face, and that person was called the LORD, or he called himself LORD (Jehovah) it has to be the Son of God who is Jehovah in the Old Testament. His name kept secret until an angel came to Joseph and told him to name the child Jesus, which means to save, for he shall save his people from their sins. Then the angel said to him, "they shall call his name Emmanuel," or "Immanuel (the strong God with us) in Isaiah 7:14, "Behold a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son and shall call his name Immanuel."

When this prophecy was given to Isaiah, the two Southern tribes were under attack from the ten Northern tribes. King Pekah of Israel had recently killed 120,000 in Judea in one day and carried away 200,000 women and children. The two Southern tribes were also under attack from Assyria. Ahaz, King of Judea, was fearful, so he was told to ask Jehovah for a sign, but he humbly refused. This prophesy from Jehovah was not given for King Ahaz's sake, but the Lord remembering his everlasting covenant with King David. Jehovah promised David, "And your house and your kingdom shall be established for ever before thee: you throne shall be established forever," 2 Samuel 7:8-16.

And because Ahaz refused to ask for a sigh, Isaiah 7:14, "Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." Immanuel in Hebrew means "The strong God with us."

Now, concerning Jehovah's human nature as the Christ child, Isaiah said, verse 15, "Butter and honey shall he eat," meaning he shall truly be a man, grow and be nourished as a man. Then Isaiah added, "that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good." This refers to the Christ child in his Divine nature. This union of Divine and human is termed "a sign or miracle." This miraculous union was to be brought about in a miraculous way, "A virgin shall conceive, and bear a son."

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... "they shall call his name Emmanuel," or "Immanuel (the strong God with us) in Isaiah 7:14, "Behold a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son and shall call his name Immanuel." ...

In this case it is good to notice. Jesus told God dwells in him. Therefore, if we believe Jesus, God is with us, in Jesus. That doesn't mean Jesus is the only one true God.

Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I tell you, I speak not from myself; but the Father who lives in me does his works. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me; or else believe me for the very works’ sake.
John 14:10-11
Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” The Jews therefore said, “It took forty-six years to build this temple! Will you raise it up in three days?” But he spoke of the temple of his body.
John 2:19-21
For I spoke not from myself, but the Father who sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. I know that his commandment is eternal life. The things therefore which I speak, even as the Father has said to me, so I speak.
John 12:49-50

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Can the Jehovah’s Witnesses ever win a disagreement concerning Jesus being Jehovah, or the Holy Spirit being the third person in the Godhead, or that man is composed of a body, soul and spirit, or there is a hell, or the doctrine of the Trinity without claiming that the translators of the K.J.B., N.I.V. Douay, Bishop’s Bible, Reformation Bible, Tindal, Wycliff Bibles and 100 others are all wrong in their Translations?

And that the 48 Translators of the King James, and the other 10 or so theologians that helped, and that commentators and translators like Matthew Henry, Adam Clark, Jamieson, Fausset, Brown, Erasmus, Walvoord, Zuck, Dr. Sproul, Wycliff, Les Feldick, Calvin, Macarther, Bede and I can name a thousand others were all wrong in translating the Hebrew and Greek Text? And that they all misunderstood what they were translating.
That is the argument the Jehovah’s Witnesses stand on; nobody has gotten it right except us. Is that possible?

The term brainwashing was first coined in the late '50s during the Korean War. It was used to explain how totalitarian regimes were able to indoctrinate American soldiers through a process of propaganda. Soon after that the Jehovah’s Witnesses decided to go from the teachings of the King James Bible to a new Bible called the New World Translation, and that twenty or so unknown and unnamed Translators who feared and loved the Divine Author transmitted Jehovah’s thoughts and declarations as accurately as possible.

And that these unknown translators have straightened out 2000 years of false teaching. Is this possible? Since the 1950s, and since the 1961 edition of the N.W.T. the Witnesses have had three more copyrights on a Bible they first claimed to “Transmit his (Jehovah's) thoughts and declarations as accurately as possible.” That is, until 1971, when they came out with a new copyright.

Brainwashing is the theory that a person’s core beliefs, ideas, affiliations, and values can be replaced, so much so that they cannot think critically or independently. So, here’s the question:

For the past 2000 years, has the Christian community been misled by the commentors and translators of the K.J.B., Bishop’s Bible, N.I.V., and all the other Bibles mentioned above? And that from the early 1950s when the N.W.T. came out, the Witnesses have finally straightened everyone and everything out? Is this possible?
Your thoughts:

Yes it is possible. Remember, Jesus indicated that the majority of people would be misled and travel on the wide road to destruction. (Matthew 7:13,14) So religion, it stands to reason, would largely be misleading the people on the earth. Most of it is bogus.

"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it." (Matt.7:13,14, NIV)

So the majority are wrong.

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Can the Jehovah’s Witnesses ever win a disagreement concerning Jesus being Jehovah, or the Holy Spirit being the third person in the Godhead, or that man is composed of a body, soul and spirit, or there is a hell, or the doctrine of the Trinity without claiming that the translators of the K.J.B., N.I.V. Douay, Bishop’s Bible, Reformation Bible, Tindal, Wycliff Bibles and 100 others are all wrong in their Translations?

And that the 48 Translators of the King James, and the other 10 or so theologians that helped, and that commentators and translators like Matthew Henry, Adam Clark, Jamieson, Fausset, Brown, Erasmus, Walvoord, Zuck, Dr. Sproul, Wycliff, Les Feldick, Calvin, Macarther, Bede and I can name a thousand others were all wrong in translating the Hebrew and Greek Text? And that they all misunderstood what they were translating.
That is the argument the Jehovah’s Witnesses stand on; nobody has gotten it right except us. Is that possible?

The term brainwashing was first coined in the late '50s during the Korean War. It was used to explain how totalitarian regimes were able to indoctrinate American soldiers through a process of propaganda. Soon after that the Jehovah’s Witnesses decided to go from the teachings of the King James Bible to a new Bible called the New World Translation, and that twenty or so unknown and unnamed Translators who feared and loved the Divine Author transmitted Jehovah’s thoughts and declarations as accurately as possible.

And that these unknown translators have straightened out 2000 years of false teaching. Is this possible? Since the 1950s, and since the 1961 edition of the N.W.T. the Witnesses have had three more copyrights on a Bible they first claimed to “Transmit his (Jehovah's) thoughts and declarations as accurately as possible.” That is, until 1971, when they came out with a new copyright.

Brainwashing is the theory that a person’s core beliefs, ideas, affiliations, and values can be replaced, so much so that they cannot think critically or independently. So, here’s the question:

For the past 2000 years, has the Christian community been misled by the commentors and translators of the K.J.B., Bishop’s Bible, N.I.V., and all the other Bibles mentioned above? And that from the early 1950s when the N.W.T. came out, the Witnesses have finally straightened everyone and everything out? Is this possible?
Your thoughts:

Yes it is possible. Remember, Jesus indicated that the majority of people would be misled and travel on the wide road to destruction. (Matthew 7:13,14) So religion, it stands to reason, would largely be misleading the people on the earth. Most of it is bogus.

"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it." (Matt.7:13,14, NIV)

So the majority are wrong.

So, because you think the Jehovah's Witnesses are in the minority, that they're right, is that what you're saying? Jesus is the Shepherd who stands at that narrow gate. No man will enter through that gate who denies the glory the Father has glorified his beloved Son with.

Point one, 'the narrow gate," hummm! Of the 7 billion people on Earth, what would you call a minority? Your organization has told you that anyone who disagrees with you is an antichrist, a false prophet, or as you said, "misled." Some of the greatest minds that ever lived are wrong because they disagree with Witness propaganda; is that what you are claiming?

2 Thessalonians 2:3, Paul wrote, "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day (before the coming of Christ) shall not come, except there come a falling away first,"

Paul is writing about the end times. The Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Scientologists, etc., are the new kids on the block. Because the Witnesses deny the teachings of Taze Russel, who died in 1916, your organization is a little more than 100 years old. The N.W.T. is less than 75 years old. The parents or grandparents of most Jehovah's Witnesses were either Catholic, Lutheran, Methodist, or Baptist. It's this past generation that has left their first love, and has fallen in love with an organization, not the Lord Jesus or the Holy Spirit, whom they deny even exists.

Over the past 4 months, I have posted in my articles a great deal of evidence proving beyond a doubt that Jesus Christ is Jehovah of the Old Testament. He is our God, your Jehovah, to the glory of his Father in heaven. Declaring Jesus a mere man, an angel, or a Superman, and to deny his sovereignty and Divinity, and the gifts the Father has glorified his Son with, that being "All things," is to deny the truth.

There is intellectual honesty vs. intellectual dogma, which I believe the Jehovah's Witnesses are guilty of. Witnesses do not think for themselves, they are led like sheep to the slaughter, denying the God that created them, Jesus Christ.

Colossians 1:16, "For by him (Jesus) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth." The Scriptures are clear, unless they have been muddied up by a corrupted "Unholy Bible."

John 1:3, "All things were made by him (Jesus); and without him was not anything made that was made. In him was life:"

Jesus is God with us, Matthew 1:23.
Jesus is God manifest in the flesh, 1 Timothy 3:16. K.J.B.
Jesus said, Revelation 1:8, I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the Almighty."

Yet the Witnesses deny all the above verses, making themselves God, declaring the truth to be a lie.

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Can the Jehovah’s Witnesses ever win a disagreement concerning Jesus being Jehovah, or the Holy Spirit being the third person in the Godhead, or that man is composed of a body, soul and spirit, or there is a hell, or the doctrine of the Trinity without claiming that the translators of the K.J.B., N.I.V. Douay, Bishop’s Bible, Reformation Bible, Tindal, Wycliff Bibles and 100 others are all wrong in their Translations?

And that the 48 Translators of the King James, and the other 10 or so theologians that helped, and that commentators and translators like Matthew Henry, Adam Clark, Jamieson, Fausset, Brown, Erasmus, Walvoord, Zuck, Dr. Sproul, Wycliff, Les Feldick, Calvin, Macarther, Bede and I can name a thousand others were all wrong in translating the Hebrew and Greek Text? And that they all misunderstood what they were translating.
That is the argument the Jehovah’s Witnesses stand on; nobody has gotten it right except us. Is that possible?

The term brainwashing was first coined in the late '50s during the Korean War. It was used to explain how totalitarian regimes were able to indoctrinate American soldiers through a process of propaganda. Soon after that the Jehovah’s Witnesses decided to go from the teachings of the King James Bible to a new Bible called the New World Translation, and that twenty or so unknown and unnamed Translators who feared and loved the Divine Author transmitted Jehovah’s thoughts and declarations as accurately as possible.

And that these unknown translators have straightened out 2000 years of false teaching. Is this possible? Since the 1950s, and since the 1961 edition of the N.W.T. the Witnesses have had three more copyrights on a Bible they first claimed to “Transmit his (Jehovah's) thoughts and declarations as accurately as possible.” That is, until 1971, when they came out with a new copyright.

Brainwashing is the theory that a person’s core beliefs, ideas, affiliations, and values can be replaced, so much so that they cannot think critically or independently. So, here’s the question:

For the past 2000 years, has the Christian community been misled by the commentors and translators of the K.J.B., Bishop’s Bible, N.I.V., and all the other Bibles mentioned above? And that from the early 1950s when the N.W.T. came out, the Witnesses have finally straightened everyone and everything out? Is this possible?
Your thoughts:

Yes it is possible. Remember, Jesus indicated that the majority of people would be misled and travel on the wide road to destruction. (Matthew 7:13,14) So religion, it stands to reason, would largely be misleading the people on the earth. Most of it is bogus.

"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it." (Matt.7:13,14, NIV)

So the majority are wrong.

So, because you think the Jehovah's Witnesses are in the minority, that they're right, is that what you're saying? Jesus is the Shepherd who stands at that narrow gate. No man will enter through that gate who denies the glory the Father has glorified his beloved Son with.

Point one, 'the narrow gate," hummm! Of the 7 billion people on Earth, what would you call a minority? Your organization has told you that anyone who disagrees with you is an antichrist, a false prophet, or as you said, "misled." Some of the greatest minds that ever lived are wrong because they disagree with Witness propaganda; is that what you are claiming?

2 Thessalonians 2:3, Paul wrote, "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day (before the coming of Christ) shall not come, except there come a falling away first,"

Paul is writing about the end times. The Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Scientologists, etc., are the new kids on the block. Because the Witnesses deny the teachings of Taze Russel, who died in 1916, your organization is a little more than 100 years old. The N.W.T. is less than 75 years old. The parents or grandparents of most Jehovah's Witnesses were either Catholic, Lutheran, Methodist, or Baptist. It's this past generation that has left their first love, and has fallen in love with an organization, not the Lord Jesus or the Holy Spirit, whom they deny even exists.

Over the past 4 months, I have posted in my articles a great deal of evidence proving beyond a doubt that Jesus Christ is Jehovah of the Old Testament. He is our God, your Jehovah, to the glory of his Father in heaven. Declaring Jesus a mere man, an angel, or a Superman, and to deny his sovereignty and Divinity, and the gifts the Father has glorified his Son with, that being "All things," is to deny the truth.

There is intellectual honesty vs. intellectual dogma, which I believe the Jehovah's Witnesses are guilty of. Witnesses do not think for themselves, they are led like sheep to the slaughter, denying the God that created them, Jesus Christ.

Colossians 1:16, "For by him (Jesus) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth." The Scriptures are clear, unless they have been muddied up by a corrupted "Unholy Bible."

John 1:3, "All things were made by him (Jesus); and without him was not anything made that was made. In him was life:"

Jesus is God with us, Matthew 1:23.
Jesus is God manifest in the flesh, 1 Timothy 3:16. K.J.B.
Jesus said, Revelation 1:8, I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the Almighty."

Yet the Witnesses deny all the above verses, making themselves God, declaring the truth to be a lie.

You are calling the truth a lie. You're messing with Jesus' own organization and you'll have to answer to him.

When Paul wrote 2 Thess. 2:3 he was talking about the end times of that era when the Temple requirements would be null and void. The ones deceiving the true followers of Jesus would be cropping up out of the woodwork, so to speak, when the last Apostle died, which was John. The antichrist would be revealed then and it was.

"For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them." (Acts 20:29,30, KJV)

So it was back then that antichrist would start deceiving, from the disciples themselves. It was revealed to be the godless off-shoot, of the true Christian organization, which grew and grew into the world empire of false religion that we see today. (That is what "antichrist" is. It is not a man who will be revealed in the future.)

"For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist." (2John 7, KJV)

So "antichrist" was already at work in John's day. Again, it grew into the world empire of false religion, especially the so-called Christian churches that we see today. John said: "Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists;..." (I John 2:18, KJV)

One last word here: You have added to the verses that you cite. Jesus plainly said that the majority would be on the broad road leading to destruction. You turn up your nose at that, which I don't really understand, because Jesus himself said these things.

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Can the Jehovah’s Witnesses ever win a disagreement concerning Jesus being Jehovah, or the Holy Spirit being the third person in the Godhead, or that man is composed of a body, soul and spirit, or there is a hell, or the doctrine of the Trinity without claiming that the translators of the K.J.B., N.I.V. Douay, Bishop’s Bible, Reformation Bible, Tindal, Wycliff Bibles and 100 others are all wrong in their Translations?

And that the 48 Translators of the King James, and the other 10 or so theologians that helped, and that commentators and translators like Matthew Henry, Adam Clark, Jamieson, Fausset, Brown, Erasmus, Walvoord, Zuck, Dr. Sproul, Wycliff, Les Feldick, Calvin, Macarther, Bede and I can name a thousand others were all wrong in translating the Hebrew and Greek Text? And that they all misunderstood what they were translating.
That is the argument the Jehovah’s Witnesses stand on; nobody has gotten it right except us. Is that possible?

The term brainwashing was first coined in the late '50s during the Korean War. It was used to explain how totalitarian regimes were able to indoctrinate American soldiers through a process of propaganda. Soon after that the Jehovah’s Witnesses decided to go from the teachings of the King James Bible to a new Bible called the New World Translation, and that twenty or so unknown and unnamed Translators who feared and loved the Divine Author transmitted Jehovah’s thoughts and declarations as accurately as possible.

And that these unknown translators have straightened out 2000 years of false teaching. Is this possible? Since the 1950s, and since the 1961 edition of the N.W.T. the Witnesses have had three more copyrights on a Bible they first claimed to “Transmit his (Jehovah's) thoughts and declarations as accurately as possible.” That is, until 1971, when they came out with a new copyright.

Brainwashing is the theory that a person’s core beliefs, ideas, affiliations, and values can be replaced, so much so that they cannot think critically or independently. So, here’s the question:

For the past 2000 years, has the Christian community been misled by the commentors and translators of the K.J.B., Bishop’s Bible, N.I.V., and all the other Bibles mentioned above? And that from the early 1950s when the N.W.T. came out, the Witnesses have finally straightened everyone and everything out? Is this possible?
Your thoughts:

Yes it is possible. Remember, Jesus indicated that the majority of people would be misled and travel on the wide road to destruction. (Matthew 7:13,14) So religion, it stands to reason, would largely be misleading the people on the earth. Most of it is bogus.

"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it." (Matt.7:13,14, NIV)

So the majority are wrong.

So, because you think the Jehovah's Witnesses are in the minority, that they're right, is that what you're saying? Jesus is the Shepherd who stands at that narrow gate. No man will enter through that gate who denies the glory the Father has glorified his beloved Son with.

Point one, 'the narrow gate," hummm! Of the 7 billion people on Earth, what would you call a minority? Your organization has told you that anyone who disagrees with you is an antichrist, a false prophet, or as you said, "misled." Some of the greatest minds that ever lived are wrong because they disagree with Witness propaganda; is that what you are claiming?

2 Thessalonians 2:3, Paul wrote, "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day (before the coming of Christ) shall not come, except there come a falling away first,"

Paul is writing about the end times. The Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Scientologists, etc., are the new kids on the block. Because the Witnesses deny the teachings of Taze Russel, who died in 1916, your organization is a little more than 100 years old. The N.W.T. is less than 75 years old. The parents or grandparents of most Jehovah's Witnesses were either Catholic, Lutheran, Methodist, or Baptist. It's this past generation that has left their first love, and has fallen in love with an organization, not the Lord Jesus or the Holy Spirit, whom they deny even exists.

Over the past 4 months, I have posted in my articles a great deal of evidence proving beyond a doubt that Jesus Christ is Jehovah of the Old Testament. He is our God, your Jehovah, to the glory of his Father in heaven. Declaring Jesus a mere man, an angel, or a Superman, and to deny his sovereignty and Divinity, and the gifts the Father has glorified his Son with, that being "All things," is to deny the truth.

There is intellectual honesty vs. intellectual dogma, which I believe the Jehovah's Witnesses are guilty of. Witnesses do not think for themselves, they are led like sheep to the slaughter, denying the God that created them, Jesus Christ.

Colossians 1:16, "For by him (Jesus) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth." The Scriptures are clear, unless they have been muddied up by a corrupted "Unholy Bible."

John 1:3, "All things were made by him (Jesus); and without him was not anything made that was made. In him was life:"

Jesus is God with us, Matthew 1:23.
Jesus is God manifest in the flesh, 1 Timothy 3:16. K.J.B.
Jesus said, Revelation 1:8, I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the Almighty."

Yet the Witnesses deny all the above verses, making themselves God, declaring the truth to be a lie.

You are calling the truth a lie. You're messing with Jesus' own organization and you'll have to answer to him.

When Paul wrote 2 Thess. 2:3 he was talking about the end times of that era when the Temple requirements would be null and void. The ones deceiving the true followers of Jesus would be cropping up out of the woodwork, so to speak, when the last Apostle died, which was John. The antichrist would be revealed then and it was.

"For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them." (Acts 20:29,30, KJV)

So it was back then that antichrist would start deceiving, from the disciples themselves. It was revealed to be the godless off-shoot, of the true Christian organization, which grew and grew into the world empire of false religion that we see today. (That is what "antichrist" is. It is not a man who will be revealed in the future.)

"For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist." (2John 7, KJV)

Who's denying it?

So "antichrist" was already at work in John's day. Again, it grew into the world empire of false religion, especially the so-called Christian churches that we see today. John said: "Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists;..." (I John 2:18, KJV)

Ha, Ha, Ha funniest thing I have read in months. Do you see that phrase, "SHALL COME." IT SPEAKS OF THE FUTURE.

One last word here: You have added to the verses that you cite. Jesus plainly said that the majority would be on the broad road leading to destruction. You turn up your nose at that, which I don't really understand, because Jesus himself said these things.

No, I turn up my nose at the arrogance of the followers of the Watchtower who believe they alone have the truth, that they are the 144,000. Jehovah's Witnesses always talk about the new light they receive. They have been wrong on so many things over the past 100 years and have changed their minds on so many other things, I honestly think their batteries have run out, and their so-called light has turned to darkness. Anyway, have a good day.

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Can the Jehovah’s Witnesses ever win a disagreement concerning Jesus being Jehovah, or the Holy Spirit being the third person in the Godhead, ...

If Jesus is Jehovah and there is Holy Spirit, who is the third person in the Trinity?

The Father who is also called Jehovah or Yahweh.

Because no man has ever seen the Father, those in the Old Testament, men like Abraham, who sat down and ate with the LORD, Isaac, Jacob who wrestled with God, Moses who saw God's back side, Manoah and his wife the parents of Samson who spoke face to face with God, Adam walked with Jehovah, Joshua spoke to the LORD face to face, etc.

Use some common sense.

It would be wonderful if you would stop making assumptions with little or no evidence that what you say is true. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Lot and Manoah saw and listened to an angel of the LORD, and some ate with the angels, who were representatives of God, Jehovah. They spoke what Jehovah wanted them to say and they did what Jehovah told them to do. That is why the men (angels) they saw or heard were called "God" or "Jehovah." Jesus was probably the angel of the LORD in those instances, and one of the "men" who visited Abraham. Because the "men" were representing Jehovah, one of them was called "Jehovah." (Genesis 12:7; 17:1; 18:1-3,13,17,20,22) Just exactly what Jesus did later. He represented Jehovah and did what his Father asked him to do.(John 8:28,29) He would not be Jehovah but His representative that Jehovah sent to the earth. Jesus many times said about the Father that He had sent him. Would Jehovah send Himself? (See Isaiah 61:1 and John 11:41,42.) (In both of those Scriptures it can be seen that there are two individuals being referred to.) Would Jesus lift up his eyes to heaven and speak to himself?

Yes, let's use common sense.