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chrispalasz Scholar
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Sat Dec 11, 2004 10:32 am Post subject: When will you become a Christian? |
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What would it take for you to become a Christian?
What is an example of one specific, hypothetical situation that would have to occur in order for you to become a Christian?
Do you think it's possible that you will ever become a Christian? Do you think it's probable?
Christians: What DID it take for you to become a Christian?
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| I might consider it if a 10 foot tall man with a long white beard suddenly fell from the sky and said "I am God, hear me roar." and then floated back up and disappeared in the sky. Other than that, no, I don't buy it. |
_________________ If we are going to teach creation science as an alternative to evolution,
then we should also teach the stork theory as an alternative to biological reproduction. |
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worship-your-mother-she-i Apprentice
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Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:51 pm Post subject: Re: When will you become a Christian? |
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| GreenLight311 wrote: | What would it take for you to become a Christian?
What is an example of one specific, hypothetical situation that would have to occur in order for you to become a Christian?
Do you think it's possible that you will ever become a Christian? Do you think it's probable?
Christians: What DID it take for you to become a Christian?
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If you logically prove your religion I will become christian. |
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chrispalasz Scholar
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| Quote: | | worship-your-mother-she-i wrote: If you logically prove your religion I will become christian. |
You mean all I have to do is prove it logically? You don't want observable evidence? Haha, sweet.
I honestly think you're deceiving yourself with the above statement... but if you say so! |
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worship-your-mother-she-i Apprentice
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Sat Dec 11, 2004 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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You mean all I have to do is prove it logically? You don't want observable evidence? Haha, sweet.
I honestly think you're deceiving yourself with the above statement... but if you say so! |
Observable evidence is one way of logical proof.But it is not always possible.For example for murder trials there are no observable evidences except if somehow a video cassette exists.So courts dont insist upon observable evidences but use logic to find an answer. If you can satisfactorily prove that observable evidence is impossible then we examine other sources.And I dont even ask proof for observable evidence here because video cassetes did not exist then.So if you can prove that
1.How christianity can benefit me better than any other existing theories it is enough for me.
But if you justify them on basis of
1.salvation- i will ask prove salvation exists.
2.hell -prove hell exists.
So I am interested to see how you prove your claims and what claims you come up with.I dont ask for video cassetes or god to appear before me.Logical reasons, simple. |
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dangerdan Apprentice Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Total posts: 225 Location: Australia Age: 29 Gender: Male
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Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:39 am Post subject: |
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As I’ve said in some other threads, there would be many different ways that God could prove her existence to me (and everyone else). I mean, it really would be remarkably easy, even if she wasn’t omnipotent. Seriously, all you have to do is appear to a bunch of people that can do some objective measurements (videotape, etc), then maybe prove why she should be called “God”, and then that’s it. Pretty basic. In fact, the absence of any such evidence…at all…should be ringing alarm bells.
So sure, if there is some new evidence or some thorough arguments that I haven’t previously seen or considered, I’d happily become a Christian…again. |
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bernee51 Site SupporterSavant
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Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:18 am Post subject: Re: When will you become a Christian? |
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| GreenLight311 wrote: | What would it take for you to become a Christian?
What is an example of one specific, hypothetical situation that would have to occur in order for you to become a Christian? |
I cannot think of any situation that would have me convert to christianity. In some respects this is unfortunate in that I have great respect for many of the tentes of christianity - specifically those dealing with compassion. What I find unpalatable is the theological and dogmatic aspects of the belief system which I see as intolerant.
I do not and cannot ever agree with the 'worldview' as expressed by yourself GL that all are sinners, there is a need for salvation, there is only one path to salvation and those who do not follow are doomed to suffer for all eternity.
I believe the basis on which the whole christian faith stands is, like all other religions, a myth and nothing more. As far as a 'hypothetical'' is concerned - I find it difficult to conceive of one short of the irrefutably miraculous - not a story of the same but a first person experience.
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Do you think it's possible that you will ever become a Christian? Do you think it's probable? |
It is not likely that I will ever adopt a theistic belief system as I have no doubt that the existence of a god or gods is fanciful. |
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Mon Dec 13, 2004 3:59 pm Post subject: I would have to be forced |
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For me to become a Christian I would have to be forced like most of the beginning christians were. Only it would have to be GOD herself saying you must become a Christian. She would have to appear in a verifiable manner. She would have to threaten my life as Chrisitanity does, sayin if you dont' do as I say then you will go to hell. If you do what I say then you will not suffer.
I most likely wouldn't love such a dictator.
But then even such a being showed up, does that make her GOD as we call GOD. IT could just be a more advanced being from another Galaxy coming here to make us her servants and slaves.
Maybe it was our universal older sibling who came down here and split the red sea for moses and gave us a bible so we could learn how to be civilized in times when we didn't have much knowledge.
Maybe they just did it to help us out until we came into greater knowledge. |
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Simplicity is Profundity
Simply put if you cant prove it, you cant reasonably be mad at me for not believing it |
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chrispalasz Scholar
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Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, everyone...
Now, I know you're very anti-Christianity, and I know you're mocking Christianity by saying these things, but we are talking about the Christian God... and the Christian God is a He. Not a she. If you want to talk about some she-god... there are some other threads. Or, if you want to debate the existance of the Jesus Christ as God on another thread, fine. Go ahead and use "she". Or if you want to put up an argument that the gender reference for the Christian God should be "she" and not "He", then you should start another thread.
So, as a correction, the subject of this thread is the Christian God. And the Christian God is a He, not a "she". Please note that for future reference. Thanks.
| Quote: | Arch wrote: Only it would have to be GOD herself saying you must become a Christian. She would have to appear in a verifiable manner. She would have to[...]
But then even such a being showed up, does that make her GOD as we call GOD. IT could just be a more advanced being from another Galaxy coming here to make us her servants and slaves.
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| Quote: | | dangerdan wrote: As I’ve said in some other threads, there would be many different ways that God could prove her existence to me (and everyone else). I mean, it really would be remarkably easy, even if she[...] |
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Fletch Newbie Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Total posts: 3 Gender: Undisclosed
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Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| I am not at all opposed to becoming a christian. If I were to be presented evidence that christianity was true, along with all the corollary doctrines, then my pursuit of truth would lead me to repent and accept Jesus as my saviour. To date, however, no such evidence has been produced. |
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