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ICAN wins Nobel Peace Prize.

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So, I am truly undecided on this one.

ICAN is the International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons.

Seems to me, even if your own cities had been nuked, and your own people massacred, it would still not be a moral action to order a reciprocal nuclear strike. Revenge is no excuse to obliterate innocent millions.

If that's not moral, then clearly a preemptive first strike could not be moral either.

But the whole idea of deterrence is that your enemy should not know, and could not judge, whether you would act morally or immorally in response to their aggression.

How do we get from a MAD (mutually assured destruction) world, to a SHE (sane, humane and ecological) world?

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Bust Nak wrote: You say that, but the Bible mixes the word "good" and "right" up all the time. The two words are interchangeable not just in common vulgar meaning, but also in scripture. Here are some examples:

"Learn to do good; seek justice, correct oppression; bring justice to the fatherless, plead the widow's cause."

The "good" here obviously referred moral according to God, otherwise God would not ask us to learn it.

"And you shall do what is right and good in the sight of the Lord."

This verse is even more specific, there is no doubt the "good" here is according to God.
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It is a matter of translation, and the people who wrote the Bible and those who translate the Bible are all infected with the same poisoned knowledge of "good and bad" and so we find it every where.

This doctrine is very complicated, because it is so personal and so powerful.

According to the book of Genesis where the story is first told then it declares that the people were so severely damaged by that knowledge that they have to be shut out from any thing more, see Genesis 3:22-24

The language is full of metaphor and symbolism, but the point that humanity is separated from God because of that poisoned knowledge is made quite clear, and it is clear that we are ever after still damaged by it.

Now for any person to get back inside and get through the "flaming swords" then that is not so easy to do.
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