Climate change will not bring about our end, but this will--

[justme2]

Climate change will not bring about our end, but this will--

The world’s climate has been changing since the beginning of time; this is NOT our impeding threat !!

Fossil fuels are “finite� and known oil reserves will be sucked up and burned within the text 15-20 years!!

This is “the� crises facing us, not climate but our energy needs.

Will we make the transition in a smooth way or one tragedy piled up on another?

[JJ50]

The sooner oil is a fuel of the past the better.

[justme2]

Coal/oil on the way out

More than half of the U.S. coal mines operating in 2008 have since closed
In the United States, decreasing demand for coal has contributed to lower coal production, which has fallen by more than one-third since peak production in 2008. As U.S. coal demand has declined, the number of active coal mines has decreased by more than half, from 1,435 mines in 2008 to 671 mines in 2017. As the U.S. market contracted, smaller, less efficient mines were the first to close, and most of the mine closures were in the Appalachian region.

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The U.S. has more coal reserves than any other country. Additionally, we remain one of the world’s top producers of coal—third only behind China and India. And, coal accounted for 30.1% of U.S. electricity generation in 2017

The reason the US has more coal reserves than any other country is because the other countries are running out of COAL!!!!

In addition to our robust oil production, the U.S. also has the largest government-owned stockpile of emergency crude oil in the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR). And, at 660 million barrels, the SPR is by far the largest oil stockpile in the world. The SPR was created after the oil embargo of 1973–74, when the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries cut off their supply of oil to the United States.
https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files ... 6/American Energy Dominance_10.18.18.pdf

Department of Energy
DOE Announces Notice of Sale of Crude Oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve
FEBRUARY 28, 2019

WASHINGTON, D.C. - Today, the U.S. Department of Energy’s (DOE) Office of Fossil Energy (FE) announced a Notice of Sale of crude oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR).

DOE plans to draw down and sell crude oil from three SPR sites—Bryan Mound and Big Hill in Texas, and West Hackberry in Louisiana. This sale will fulfill requirements for Section 404 of the Bipartisan Budget Act of 2015 (Public Law 114-74).

The Congressionally mandated sale is authorized in Section 404 of the Bipartisan Budget Act of 2015. The law authorizes the Secretary of Energy to draw down and sell up to $2 billion of SPR crude oil, for fiscal years (FYs) 2017 through 2020, to carry out an SPR modernization program. In FY 2019, the Secretary is authorized to sell up to $300 million worth of crude oil from the SPR to carry out the SPR Life Extension Phase II project—a component of the SPR modernization program, in accordance with the Energy and Water, Legislative Branch, and Military Construction and Veterans Affairs Appropriations Act, 2019 (Public Law 115-244). The proceeds from this sale will be deposited into DOE’s Energy Security and Infrastructure Modernization Fund during FY 2019.
DOE Announces Notice of Sale of Crude Oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve

NOTICE----- The reason Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) is now selling it's reserves is because private reserves cannot supply the needed demand!!! (we are running out of OIL!!!!)

The truth will set us free !! -

[JJ50]

Modern methods of creating energy which are less polluting on the planet should be employed, like solar panels and wind farms.

[2ndRateMind]

World economies coming to an end

The people who believe the green deal is a joke are the ones duped into complacency just to win a pointless debate with no end in sight.

The worlds climate has been changing since day one (1) and will continue to do so regardless of what the human race does to try and change it.
Climate change will not cause the human race’s end ...

No, I don't think it will. But that is not the point. The point is that the world is anticipated, due to climate change, to be considerably less congenial to all life, not just human life. The risk is the degradation of resources and ecologies will spark a major population decrease, either directly, through starvation, due to our compromised capacity to produce food, or indirectly, through wars fought over the control of diminishing resources.

Humanity is adaptable. It will find ways to survive. It is just that that survival is most likely to be under conditions far more severe and testing than any we profligate western contemporaries enjoy, and the resulting widespread human misery and death will be our fault, unless we adapt now, rather than just sooner or later.

Best wishes, 2RM.

[justme2]

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due to climate change, to be considerably less congenial to all life, not just human life, and the degradation of resources and ecologies will spark a major population decrease, either directly, through starvation, due to our compromised capacity to produce food, or indirectly, through wars fought over the control of diminishing resources.[/quote]

You paint a very, very bleak future that I pray never takes place.

[2ndRateMind]

You paint a very, very bleak future that I pray never takes place.

Me too. Nevertheless, it is said that God helps those who help themselves, and the onus for a transition to a zero carbon global economy is on us, not God.

Meanwhile, I'm prepping, in a casual sort of way.

Best wishes, 2RM.

[justme2]

In another forum I found this which looks interesting. I cut a lot out to fit, check the link for the full story

This Gasoline Is Made of Carbon Sucked From the Air
A Harvard-affiliated Canadian company is making a liquid fuel that is carbon neutral, and they hope the economics will be in their favor.
Imagine driving up to your local gas station and being able to choose between regular, premium, or carbon-free gasoline.

Carbon Engineering, a Canadian company, is already making a liquid fuel by sucking carbon dioxide (CO2) out of the atmosphere and combining it with hydrogen from water. This is an engineering breakthrough on two fronts: A potentially cost-effective way to take CO2 out of the atmosphere to fight climate change and a potentially cost-competitive way to make gasoline, diesel, or jet fuel that doesn’t add any additional CO2 to the atmosphere.

“Our paper shows the costs and engineering for a full-scale plant that could capture one million tons of CO2 a year,� Keith said.

“It costs more than a barrel of oil right now, but in places with a price on carbon of $20 a ton we’re competitive,� Oldham said in an interview.

Still, even at $100 per ton, there aren’t enough CO2 buyers right now. So the company decided to make a carbon-neutral liquid fuel, said Steve Oldham, CEO of Carbon Engineering. The captured CO2 is combined with hydrogen, which is made through the electrolysis of water. While the process requires a lot of electricity, the pilot plant in Squamish uses renewable hydro power. The resulting synthetic fuel can be blended or used on its own as gasoline, diesel, or jet fuel. When it’s burned it emits the same amount of CO2 that went into making it, so it’s effectively carbon neutral.

Carbon Engineering is building a larger plant, utilizing low-cost renewable energy, that will produce 200 barrels of synthetic fuel a day. It should be operational in 2020, said Keith. The company is also looking to license their technology.

“We think this is very scalable and will have world-wide markets,� says Oldham. “All you need is air and water as feedstocks, and some electricity.� And a license to their tech.
https://tinyurl.com/y34z62np

I must add: Plants live on CO2 and exhale 02; We live on O2 and exhale CO2

[justme2]

The end of the Fossil Fuel era is upon us so what are we going to do next-?
Started by tooldtocare on Apr 29, 2011 2:42:41 AM
http://notthetalk.com/discussion/list/2840?start=0

After 3,138 posts in the above topic I no longer need to beat my drums on this issue. Now we have hybrids, electric cars and a new fuel source that is not derived from oil.

The world is unfolding as it should
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