What are we to make of this?
Do they not realize that they're making Jesus out to be a liar?
"Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away."
(Matthew 24:35)
"He that loveth Me not, keepeth not My sayings. And the Word which you hear is not Mine, but the Fathers who sent Me."
(John 14:24)
"Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak."
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Re: "Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak."
Post #241Tell that to the changes in our weather and natural world.
And if you think our glaciers and ice sheets are lying then nobody can help you.
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Post #242Marke: It does appear that either the global warming alarmists or those not alarmed are deceived.
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Post #243Marke: It does appear that either the global warming alarmists or those not alarmed are deceived.
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Post #244Again........
Tell that to the changes in our weather and natural world.
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Marke: Earth has gone through weather changes for thousands of years and those changes are not caused by humans utilizing earth's resources to survive.
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Post #245[Replying to marke in post #244]
Humans haven't been dumping tons of pollutants into the atmosphere for thousands of years, but we're doing so now. Remember the "load of bricks" analogy?Earth has gone through weather changes for thousands of years and those changes are not caused by humans utilizing earth's resources to survive.
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Post #247Marke: The waste products of human living are recycled in the environment God designed to cleanse the earth of wastes. Rivers flow into the ocean, carrying wastes like human blood streams delivering wastes to appropriate organs that remove those wastes from the body. The Bible says a crib without an ox may be clean but it does not add to the needs of farm owners. Humans will produce wastes and attempting to stop human productions may cut down on waste but it also cuts down on production and living standards, as we are seeing in the burdens placed on poor people struggling to fill their cars with gas and heat their homes with oil that the left does not want them to have or use.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Thu Apr 03, 2025 12:23 pm [Replying to marke in post #244]
Humans haven't been dumping tons of pollutants into the atmosphere for thousands of years, but we're doing so now. Remember the "load of bricks" analogy?Earth has gone through weather changes for thousands of years and those changes are not caused by humans utilizing earth's resources to survive.
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Post #248How old is the earth? The Biblical record seems to indicate a period of less than 10,000 years. Secularists have devised dating schemes that produce ages in the billions of years, but those measurements are dependent on unverifiable assumptions like those about the original percentages of father-daughter elements in original rocks.
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Post #249Clownboat wrote:I would be more worried about anyone that doesn't think we need to manage our world... because Jesus will be returning.
You failed to address my worry about people that don't think we need to manage our world... because of Jesus.Marke: Humans cannot control, change, alter, or otherwise manage the weather or climate and only massive egos can cause some to think they can.
You failed to address our history, where we educate future generations and let the existing that fail to accept new information, die off.
I did read your unevidenced claims and see nothing worthy of a response, because they are simply claims and you are not an authority to be taken seriously. If you feel anything you said does deserve a response, please let me know.
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Post #250(Quoting my own post)Clownboat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 2:25 pmFor the sake of debate, let's assume that your claim is correct so we can move on.
Knowing that the above is true does not stop what we know about carbon dioxide or methane in our atmosphere (that they prevent heat from escaping into space). Humans are adding these things and we know what that does, even though there is corruption and dishonesty (granted for debate purposes).
When your toilet is plugged, if you continue to flush it (add water to the bowl), water will overflow... even if the plumber that told you about this is corrupt and dishonest. You seem to want to ignore what we do know (about adding water to a blocked bowl/adding gases to our atmosphere) because you find the source to be x,y and/or z. Your thinking is illogical and fails to address that which we do know to be true.
So, now that we know (granted for debate) that all the people in the global warming movement are corrupt, heck, let's consider them tiny little demons as it really matters not, what do you have to say about the gases that humans are adding to the atmosphere that do increase the heat in our atmosphere?
I predict that you will ignore that which we know about said gases, because... Jesus. The rest of us still know what we know though and we must sit and wonder why it is that you ignore that which we know.
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Some Christians are so simple to figure out, that their failures in debate can be predicted. Apparently, I'm a prophet!
By rejecting established sciences, like what carbon dioxide does in our atmosphere, people are able to place themselves in a position of power. Suddenly they get to feel like they're the experts, and that is a good feeling. Why wouldn't they want to maintain that feeling?
This certainly explains how empty claims like this can be made: "Humans cannot control, change, alter, or otherwise manage the weather or climate and only massive egos can cause some to think they can."
(Someone has convinced themselves that they are the actual experts here it seems to me. Something about pride and a fall comes to mind).
You can give a man a fish and he will be fed for a day, or you can teach a man to pray for fish and he will starve to death.
I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU
It is sad that in an age of freedom some people are enslaved by the nomads of old. - Marco
If you are unable to demonstrate that what you believe is true and you absolve yourself of the burden of proof, then what is the purpose of your arguments? - brunumb
I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU
It is sad that in an age of freedom some people are enslaved by the nomads of old. - Marco
If you are unable to demonstrate that what you believe is true and you absolve yourself of the burden of proof, then what is the purpose of your arguments? - brunumb

