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Religious freedom

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A woman who belongs to the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is allowed to wear a pasta strainer on her head in her driver's license photo due to religious beliefs, the AP reports.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... /75862946/
A Portland man finally has his driver's license after a nine-month appeal for a religious exemption. The man, who goes by Bishop, wanted to wear a fox hat in order to honor his spirit animal.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/inde ... to_id.html

At what point does a society (or should a society) stop allowing religious freedom and start using common sense?
Have we reached this point yet? Or does it need to get worse before we stand up and use common sense in many attributes of society.

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From the OP:
A woman who belongs to the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is allowed to wear a pasta strainer on her head in her driver's license photo due to religious beliefs...
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A Portland man finally has his driver's license after a nine-month appeal for a religious exemption. The man, who goes by Bishop, wanted to wear a fox hat in order to honor his spirit animal.
At what point does a society (or should a society) stop allowing religious freedom and start using common sense?
I find it quite common of sense to mock religious beliefs with the strainer deal there, and assume the fox hat has some spiritual "common sense" to that'n a-wearin' it.

I reject any notion there's a lack of "common sense" in the above cited examples.
Have we reached this point yet? Or does it need to get worse before we stand up and use common sense in many attributes of society.
Ultimately, yours is an argumentum ad populum, and has no ready answers.

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Re: Religious freedom

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Youkilledkenny wrote: A woman who belongs to the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is allowed to wear a pasta strainer on her head in her driver's license photo due to religious beliefs, the AP reports.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... /75862946/
A Portland man finally has his driver's license after a nine-month appeal for a religious exemption. The man, who goes by Bishop, wanted to wear a fox hat in order to honor his spirit animal.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/inde ... to_id.html

At what point does a society (or should a society) stop allowing religious freedom and start using common sense?
Have we reached this point yet? Or does it need to get worse before we stand up and use common sense in many attributes of society.
It will get worse. Our governments are being run by highly questenable people.
The floodgates are wide open and man shall take every opportunity to show how insane we can be when let loose.

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Re: Religious freedom

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Monta wrote:
Youkilledkenny wrote: A woman who belongs to the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is allowed to wear a pasta strainer on her head in her driver's license photo due to religious beliefs, the AP reports.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... /75862946/
A Portland man finally has his driver's license after a nine-month appeal for a religious exemption. The man, who goes by Bishop, wanted to wear a fox hat in order to honor his spirit animal.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/inde ... to_id.html

At what point does a society (or should a society) stop allowing religious freedom and start using common sense?
Have we reached this point yet? Or does it need to get worse before we stand up and use common sense in many attributes of society.
It will get worse. Our governments are being run by highly questenable people.
The floodgates are wide open and man shall take every opportunity to show how insane we can be when let loose.
I agree that Christians started the whole religious freedom thing and it go out of hand. Why can't we treat everyone equal? Christians want laws so that they can discriminate based on there beliefs so why can't everyone discriminate based on their beliefs?

Should non religious be able to discriminate against renting to a religious person just because of their beliefs that religious people are immoral?

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Re: Religious freedom

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Kenisaw wrote:
As long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of another, any action deemed religious by that person should be allowed. It's not hurting anyone if someone wears spaghetti or a fox hat on their head for their license picture. They look moronic in my opinion, but it's their right to be morons...
I think this guy got it pretty spot on^
it may be ridiculous from our view, but it's their right.

Also to those people calling Christians racists and bigots, what exactly is racist about being a Christian?

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Re: Religious freedom

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Donray wrote:
Monta wrote:
Youkilledkenny wrote: A woman who belongs to the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is allowed to wear a pasta strainer on her head in her driver's license photo due to religious beliefs, the AP reports.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... /75862946/
A Portland man finally has his driver's license after a nine-month appeal for a religious exemption. The man, who goes by Bishop, wanted to wear a fox hat in order to honor his spirit animal.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/inde ... to_id.html

At what point does a society (or should a society) stop allowing religious freedom and start using common sense?
Have we reached this point yet? Or does it need to get worse before we stand up and use common sense in many attributes of society.
It will get worse. Our governments are being run by highly questenable people.
The floodgates are wide open and man shall take every opportunity to show how insane we can be when let loose.
I agree that Christians started the whole religious freedom thing and it go out of hand. Why can't we treat everyone equal? Christians want laws so that they can discriminate based on there beliefs so why can't everyone discriminate based on their beliefs?

Should non religious be able to discriminate against renting to a religious person just because of their beliefs that religious people are immoral?
the problem is people have different views. Christians aren't trying to discriminate, but they believe things such as homosexuality to be wrong, and atheists and others argue that it's right. But BOTH are "discriminating" so to speak to the others view. Religious freedom and other freedoms are good, but there comes a point where they don't work out perfectly.

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Re: Religious freedom

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[Replying to post 1 by Youkilledkenny]

In the end the courts decide at what point religious freedom encroaches on national security. As one of Jehovah's Witnesses I know that is a very difficult line to draw and we have often found ourselve accused of crossing into the latter.

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