To the bold:Gracchus wrote: [Replying to post 17 by Clownboat]
"Slaying me with irony I see.
Guns are a problem!
We need men with guns to take care of this problem where men have guns!"
More specifically, we need well-regulated, well-trained, disciplined persons with guns to take care of the problem violence until it can be taken by well-regulated, well-trained, and disciplined persons without guns.
A terrorist with a knife killed one and stabbed another before being killed by police. A terrorist with a semi-automatic weapon would almost certainly claimed more victims.
Just because we can't get a utopia doesn't mean we can't make things better.
Now that is something I am not arguing against!
Just the pipe dream that we need to pass a law and our gun problems will soon be solved.
Words by Martin Luther King Jr.
Martin Luther King Jr. (1929â€“1968)
Hate begets hate; violence begets violence; toughness begets a greater toughness.
There would be no violence from me if we get rid of the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution. I'm not the gun owner we need to worry about though. I fear that the violence that you are aguring for will be met with violence (some will drink beer and watch football).
What if the violence gets so bad that I wish I still had my guns around? I don't feel any need to own them for protection reasons like I said (others do), but what if the criminals do go to war with your well-regulated, well-trained, disciplined persons with guns? Not a scenario I would own a gun for personally, but more likely than a zombie appocolyps or alien invasion. And here we are, having stripped guns from wrong people.
If the well-regulated, well-trained, disciplined persons with guns has really, really good equipment at there disposal, criminals would be silly to try to go toe to toe. Consider a scenario where it is beneficial to make your attacks from the home of law abiding citizens (again, not going to go toe to toe).
Similar to what the Colonists did to the British during the battle of Lexington.
"As the British force retreated to Boston, the colonists, armed with their own civilian weapons, sniped at their antagonists from behind fences and trees rather than confronting the professionals in formal lines of battle."
Learn your (generic your) history or you will be doomed to repeat it.