Does poverty cause crime? Or does crime cause poverty

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Does poverty cause crime? Or does crime cause poverty

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Does poverty cause crime? Or does crime cause poverty. (or both) Please illustrate your answers. (not literally ;))
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AgnosticBoy wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:59 pm
Elijah John wrote: Sun May 31, 2020 9:55 pm For debate:

Does poverty cause crime? Or does crime cause poverty. (or both) Please illustrate your answers. (not literally ;))
There is certainly a correlation between poverty and certain types of crime. But then again, there are people who are poor and don't commit crime. There are also people who aren't poor, or who are even rich, yet they commit crimes...

...Because of this i don't believe poverty alone causes crime, although it can be a contributing factor in connection with other factors, like dysfunctional family or lack of family support, etc.
I think you may need to take a statistical, rather than deterministic, view on this.

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2ndRateMind wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:53 am
AgnosticBoy wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:59 pm
Elijah John wrote: Sun May 31, 2020 9:55 pm For debate:

Does poverty cause crime? Or does crime cause poverty. (or both) Please illustrate your answers. (not literally ;))
Because of this i don't believe poverty alone causes crime, although it can be a contributing factor in connection with other factors, like dysfunctional family or lack of family support, etc.
I think you may need to take a statistical, rather than deterministic, view on this.

Best of wishes, 2RM.
I doubt you're going to find any stat that tells you 100% of poor people commit crime. Just one example of a poor person not resorting to crime would disprove that view. You would have to qualify your view, with "correlation" or "contributing factor".

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AgnosticBoy wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:01 am
2ndRateMind wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:53 am
AgnosticBoy wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:59 pm
Elijah John wrote: Sun May 31, 2020 9:55 pm For debate:

Does poverty cause crime? Or does crime cause poverty. (or both) Please illustrate your answers. (not literally ;))
Because of this i don't believe poverty alone causes crime, although it can be a contributing factor in connection with other factors, like dysfunctional family or lack of family support, etc.
I think you may need to take a statistical, rather than deterministic, view on this.

Best of wishes, 2RM.
I doubt you're going to find any stat that tells you 100% of poor people commit crime. Just one example of a poor person not resorting to crime would disprove that view. You would have to qualify your view, with "correlation" or "contributing factor".
Agreed. But if one's poverty makes one more likely to commit crime, and one's crime tends to leave one poor, then one is certainly entitled to say poverty causes crime, and crime causes poverty.

Best of wishes, 2RM.
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