How likely are we to find extraterrestrial life?

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William wrote:I have experienced a conscious encounter with an entity which I can comfortably describe as 'extraterrestrial'.
This being a debate site, I find it reasonable to questions such a claim as the one you have made.

If you really had an encounter with an extraterrestrial, that would be an amazing thing and the world should know about it.

Alas, it seems unimportant in the end.

Surely you must understand that alien abduction claims and such are not in short supply.
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[Replying to post 71 by Clownboat]

I have experienced a conscious encounter with an entity which I can comfortably describe as 'extraterrestrial'.
This being a debate site, I find it reasonable to questions such a claim as the one you have made.
I expect then, that you will ask reasonable questions. Is my expectation unreasonable?
If you really had an encounter with an extraterrestrial, that would be an amazing thing and the world should know about it.
I consider that to be a claim. Can you explain why you find this a reasonable expectation?

I do not disagree that it is an amazing thing for anyone to have experienced a conscious encounter with an entity which they can comfortably describe as 'extraterrestrial'.

I am puzzled as to why you think the world should know about it.
Alas, it seems unimportant in the end.
To the world, or a greater portion of it, surely. I do appreciate that it was not the greater portion of the world which had the encounter. I have no expectations that the world you speak of should find it important. It is more than enough that I find it important.
Surely you must understand that alien abduction claims and such are not in short supply.
Indeed. I see significance in such claims, perhaps primarily because of my own encounter, although strictly speaking, it was not an 'abduction' of anything more than doubt. And fear of worldly things.

As you point out, such an experience would be an amazing thing. How amazing? Life-changing.

It remains to this day, a pivotal component of my life's experience for the changes it wrought as ripple effect.

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William wrote: [Replying to post 71 by Clownboat]

I have experienced a conscious encounter with an entity which I can comfortably describe as 'extraterrestrial'.
This being a debate site, I find it reasonable to questions such a claim as the one you have made.
I expect then, that you will ask reasonable questions. Is my expectation unreasonable?
If you really had an encounter with an extraterrestrial, that would be an amazing thing and the world should know about it.
I consider that to be a claim. Can you explain why you find this a reasonable expectation?

I do not disagree that it is an amazing thing for anyone to have experienced a conscious encounter with an entity which they can comfortably describe as 'extraterrestrial'.

I am puzzled as to why you think the world should know about it.
Alas, it seems unimportant in the end.
To the world, or a greater portion of it, surely. I do appreciate that it was not the greater portion of the world which had the encounter. I have no expectations that the world you speak of should find it important. It is more than enough that I find it important.
Surely you must understand that alien abduction claims and such are not in short supply.
Indeed. I see significance in such claims, perhaps primarily because of my own encounter, although strictly speaking, it was not an 'abduction' of anything more than doubt. And fear of worldly things.

As you point out, such an experience would be an amazing thing. How amazing? Life-changing.

It remains to this day, a pivotal component of my life's experience for the changes it wrought as ripple effect.
I have no doubt that you experienced something. I doubt that it was extraterrestrial though. Is my doubt unfounded, if so, please explain why?

Also, why do you think extraterrestrials would reach out to you specifically?
Almost 7.6 billion humans on this planet and they chose you? You got to admit, it seems awfully self serving.

I'm just challenging a claim that you have made. Please don't take it personally.
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Clownboat wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 3:40 pm
William wrote: [Replying to post 71 by Clownboat]
I have no doubt that you experienced something. I doubt that it was extraterrestrial though. Is my doubt unfounded, if so, please explain why?
You are free to doubt if you wish. It is not my intent to convince anyone. I am interested in what you think of as extraterrestrial.
Also, why do you think extraterrestrials would reach out to you specifically?
Almost 7.6 billion humans on this planet and they chose you? You got to admit, it seems awfully self serving.
I have no reason to admit any such thing. Why would you think I would be the only one out of 7.6 billion humans on this planet who has experienced an encounter?

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VVilliam wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 12:54 pm
Clownboat wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 3:40 pm
William wrote: [Replying to post 71 by Clownboat]



You are free to doubt if you wish. It is not my intent to convince anyone. I am interested in what you think of as extraterrestrial.



I have no reason to admit any such thing. Why would you think I would be the only one out of 7.6 billion humans on this planet who has experienced an encounter?

Copy/Paste: "I have no doubt that you experienced something. I doubt that it was extraterrestrial though."
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Yes I understand you doubt - My question to you was to explain what you think extraterrestrial is. This will at least potentially help me to understand your reason for your doubt.

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VVilliam wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 12:54 pm
Yes I understand you doubt - My question to you was to explain what you think extraterrestrial is. This will at least potentially help me to understand your reason for your doubt.
This is nonsesical: "My question to you was to explain what you think extraterrestrial is."
(Your question directed at me is to explain something to me?)

If you are asking me what an extraterrestrial is, then I think the common definition would suffice.

ex·tra·ter·res·tri·al
/ˌekstrətəˈrestrēəl/
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adjective
of or from outside the earth or its atmosphere.
"searches for extraterrestrial intelligence"
noun
a hypothetical or fictional being from outer space, especially an intelligent one.

If you cannot show that you spoke the truth ("I have experienced a conscious encounter with an entity which I can comfortably describe as extraterrestrial"), then the honest thing to do would be to admit such a thing. Asking me to look up definitions for you is likely viewed as a dodge.

If you could just evidence your claim though, then the OP would be settled. This is why my question is important.
OP: "How likely are we to find extraterrestrial life?" <--- Apparently, we have a poster that has already found it, but when challenged, they request a definition for the word extraterrestrial rather than attempt to show that they spoke the truth.
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Will you not settle this OP for us?
You can build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day, or you can set a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life.

You can give a man a fish and he will be fed for a day, or you can teach a man to pray for fish and he will starve to death.

I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible being’s wrath. - KenRU

It is sad that in an age of freedom some people are enslaved by the nomads of old. - Marco

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