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A 6 Day Creation

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From Post 961 here:
EarthScienceguy wrote: There is now more evidence than ever before about 6-day creation.
For debate:

Please offer evidence for a literal six day creation of the Universe.

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Re: A 6 Day Creation

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brunumb wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 1:31 am
dad1 wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 12:29 am
So who is the one claiming stuff here? I pointed out science is not in the game on this topic. There is some power and force at work, the evidence is clear. Now what that is we could say is a matter of belief.
You are making the claim "that there is some power and force at work, the evidence is clear". Please support that claim by presenting the evidence for scrutiny.
Most people in all ages claim spirits are real. Don't blame me for pointing out that evidence. Have you evidence that most people on earth are and always were wrong? Why would we question this? Science is UNABLE to scrutinize this evidence. The evidence raised was that most people on the planet have always experienced things that they attributed to spirits.

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brunumb wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 1:35 am Creation allegedly produced the universe and all the matter and energy it contains. The product of creation is not spiritual, it is material and therefore subject to scientific investigation.

False. The physical is only one thing that creation produced! It also produced life, and spirit beings, and a spirit in man, etc. In addition the physical that used to exist in Adam's day is not known to be under the same laws and forces that the present world is under! No one knows. Science of the present and natural certainly does not cover the past forces and laws on earth, or anything spiritual, so it is totally out of the game in creation.
The biblical explanation may involve the supernatural, but to this day the supernatural is indistinguishable from the imaginary or non-existent.
To who?? To science? Science is physical only! It knows nothing else and can see nothing else. It could not distinguish it's way out of a paper bag on matters of God or creation!

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Re: A 6 Day Creation

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dad1 wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 1:36 am The evidence raised was that most people on the planet have always experienced things that they attributed to spirits.
That is a claim, and an unsupported one at that. Claims are not evidence.
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Re: A 6 Day Creation

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dad1 wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 1:41 am
brunumb wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 1:35 am Creation allegedly produced the universe and all the matter and energy it contains. The product of creation is not spiritual, it is material and therefore subject to scientific investigation.

False. The physical is only one thing that creation produced! It also produced life, and spirit beings, and a spirit in man, etc. In addition the physical that used to exist in Adam's day is not known to be under the same laws and forces that the present world is under! No one knows. Science of the present and natural certainly does not cover the past forces and laws on earth, or anything spiritual, so it is totally out of the game in creation.
All that says is that you don't know either. It is really just wishful thinking that you cannot demonstrate contains any truth. It is clearly necessary to prop up belief in an ancient book of myths and fairy tales.
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Re: A 6 Day Creation

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brunumb wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 1:45 am
dad1 wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 1:36 am The evidence raised was that most people on the planet have always experienced things that they attributed to spirits.
That is a claim, and an unsupported one at that. Claims are not evidence.
Most major religions believe in spirits. That is evidence.

Or how about this?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-nearl ... -in-angels

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brunumb wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 1:49 am
All that says is that you don't know either. It is really just wishful thinking that you cannot demonstrate contains any truth. It is clearly necessary to prop up belief in an ancient book of myths and fairy tales.
Your attempted insult to Scripture shows a biased position. The truth demonstrated here is that science cannot deal with creation spirits or God. That is absolute demonstrated fact. This debate is not about posters demonstrating God created. It is about science not being able to weigh in on the matter. You are welcome to your beliefs and religion.

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Re: A 6 Day Creation

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dad1 wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 2:03 am
brunumb wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 1:45 am
dad1 wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 1:36 am The evidence raised was that most people on the planet have always experienced things that they attributed to spirits.
That is a claim, and an unsupported one at that. Claims are not evidence.
Most major religions believe in spirits. That is evidence.

Or how about this?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-nearl ... -in-angels
Beliefs are not evidence. If a million people believe a false thing, it is still a false thing.
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Re: A 6 Day Creation

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dad1 wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 2:07 am
brunumb wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 1:49 am
All that says is that you don't know either. It is really just wishful thinking that you cannot demonstrate contains any truth. It is clearly necessary to prop up belief in an ancient book of myths and fairy tales.
Your attempted insult to Scripture shows a biased position. The truth demonstrated here is that science cannot deal with creation spirits or God. That is absolute demonstrated fact. This debate is not about posters demonstrating God created. It is about science not being able to weigh in on the matter. You are welcome to your beliefs and religion.
Your reliance on scripture shows a biased position. What science has established about the universe we inhabit is clearly at odds with those ancient superstitions. If the scientific method may not speak directly to magic, gods and spirits, it can produce information and knowledge about our world, and much of that clearly contradicts the alleged involvement of those entities in our existence.

Now, perhaps you should read the OP and respond on topic by offering your evidence for the 6-day creation.
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Re: A 6 Day Creation

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dad1 wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 2:07 am ...
This debate is not about posters demonstrating God created.
As the one who presented the topic for this debate, I assure you it's about seeing if anyone can demonstrate a god created stuff, and particularly in six days.

But if it'll help ya out, we can change the topic to remedial English.
It is about science not being able to weigh in on the matter. You are welcome to your beliefs and religion.
As the one who presented the topic for this debate, I assure you it's about offering some means to confirm the referenced claim is true and factual.

So, can you actually do anything other'n point out that the referenced claim can't be shown to be truthful under the tenets of the scientific method?

I bet a stud jack to a stack of griddle cakes if science actually supported the OP claim, you'd be up in a bell tower with a megaphone.
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Re: A 6 Day Creation

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brunumb wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 1:45 am
dad1 wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 1:36 am The evidence raised was that most people on the planet have always experienced things that they attributed to spirits.
That is a claim, and an unsupported one at that. Claims are not evidence.
Oh really? so what about claims that something is evidence?

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