Did science or the bible first note that the earth hangs on nothing?
Did science or the bible first note that the earth was a circle and not flat?
Questions about the Earth
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I can't help thinking it would have been pretty obvious to anyone having a serious think about things. After all the Persians and Babylonians were pretty hot on their astronomy some 3000 years ago. Both the Sun and Moon show a clear disc, and the horizon of the Earth looks curved when at sea. I rather suspect it was a little bit of (anonymous now) "scientific thinking" that started off this notion.servant wrote:It talks about the earth being round in Isaiah 40:22: "It is he that sits upon the circle of the earth."
This was written somewhere between 740 and 680 B.C.
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Please dont mis quote me. I did not post this. Goat did.Servant wrote:
Why do you think a circle is not flat?
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Yep.
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A circle is a two dimensional object. Therefore,by definition, a circle is flat.
Darn it. We agree again.
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You are thinking of a ball.. that is 3D.
Well not exactly a perfect sphere. The earth bulges a bit. But I'll cut you some slack.
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Your right the bible first talks about the earth being expanded in space and the earth not being flat.
The earth hangs in space which science did not discover until 1650. The bible first notes that the earth is not flat as previously stated.
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As I said two posts back - very sorry. But the three misquotes I attributed to you were the ones in principle I found myself agreeing with.servant wrote:Please dont mis quote me. I did not post this. Goat did.Servant wrote:
Why do you think a circle is not flat?
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Yep.
Servant wrote:
A circle is a two dimensional object. Therefore,by definition, a circle is flat.
Darn it. We agree again.
Servant wrote:
You are thinking of a ball.. that is 3D.
Well not exactly a perfect sphere. The earth bulges a bit. But I'll cut you some slack.
Servant wrote:
Your right the bible first talks about the earth being expanded in space and the earth not being flat.
The earth hangs in space which science did not discover until 1650. The bible first notes that the earth is not flat as previously stated.
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The greeks actually figured it out before the Torah was written.servant wrote: The earth hangs in space which science did not discover until 1650. The bible first notes that the earth is not flat as previously stated.
It is just that the Hebrews took their cosmology from the Egyptians and the Babylonians.... not the Greeks.
And, a circle is flat, not 3D.
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Re: Questions about the Earth
Post #18Servant, let's get something straight.servant wrote:Did science or the bible first note that the earth hangs on nothing?
Did science or the bible first note that the earth was a circle and not flat?
The bible tells us:
- The Earth came into existence about 6000 years ago (which is when humans discovered glue).
- Humans are descended from dirt named Adam and a rib named Eve.
- Humans can survive inside whales because whales swallow people whole.
- Every animal is descended from one male and one female of its species and humans are all inbred.
- Light existed before anything was around to generate it.
- Slavery is A-okay.
Anything the bible states about the universe that happens to be true (which as far as I've seen is nothing) is the guesswork of bronze & iron age hippies sitting in tents guessing.
Science is the opposite of guesswork. It seeks to investigate and understand.
Which is a better tool for understanding unknowns?
Why, in the age of the internet, are you so eager to choke down the offal of sandal-wearing primitives?
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How could the answer to this actually point to anything meaningful? Knowledge acquired with the same intellectual tool-set that's generated the fruits of technology you enjoy today has incomparable value with so-called knowledge assembled by medieval committees.servant wrote:Let me ask you a question. Do you have 100 percent knowledge?
