This word appears to be at the centre of many discussions on this forum. It also appears to mean different things to different people and, therein lies the root of our miscommunication. What range and definement do you attribute to, ' consciousness ' ?
Is there an external consciousness in the world?. Can I tune into a shared consciousness. I am listening to Prime Minister's Question Time, ....is Boris tuned into a universal human consciousness as he delivers his address. Is his brain working ,simultaneously and in tandem with my own consciousness and with that of others?
What is ' consciousness ' ?
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Re: What is ' consciousness ' ?
Post #261When I reworded the question to ask if Inquirer (or was he still Sherlock Holmes then?) believed that the resurrection of Jesus actually happened, I fared no better.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 3:44 pmFor them unaware...
In another thread Inquirer asked another member if they thought biblical claims regarding the resurrection of Jesus were a myth.
So I asked Inquirer if he thought those claims were truth.
When told by Inquirer there were different kinds of truth, and asked which kind I was asking about, I, not knowing which kind of truth Inqurer might apply to his answer, left that decision up to him.
So let's see where courtesy sits....
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Re: What is ' consciousness ' ?
Post #262It seems like the one question a Christian'd be most happy to answer.brunumb wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 6:51 pmWhen I reworded the question to ask if Inquirer (or was he still Sherlock Holmes then?) believed that the resurrection of Jesus actually happened, I fared no better.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 3:44 pmFor them unaware...
In another thread Inquirer asked another member if they thought biblical claims regarding the resurrection of Jesus were a myth.
So I asked Inquirer if he thought those claims were truth.
When told by Inquirer there were different kinds of truth, and asked which kind I was asking about, I, not knowing which kind of truth Inqurer might apply to his answer, left that decision up to him.
So let's see where courtesy sits....
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Do you believe biblical tales regarding the resurrection of Jesus are truth?
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Re: What is ' consciousness ' ?
Post #263[Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #262]
I am unsure as to what the question re resurrection [belief for or against] has to do with the topic - can someone remind me of why this came up?
I am unsure as to what the question re resurrection [belief for or against] has to do with the topic - can someone remind me of why this came up?
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Post #264Cause someone's plenty happy to ask questions of others, but shies away from those asked of him. I sought to remind the observer of why I wasn't answering questions put to me by a particular poster.William wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:52 pm [Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #262]
I am unsure as to what the question re resurrection [belief for or against] has to do with the topic - can someone remind me of why this came up?
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Post #265[Replying to Diogenes in post #260]
Its not a difficult question for me, it is the question Joey has repeatedly refused to answer.
Its not a difficult question for me, it is the question Joey has repeatedly refused to answer.
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Post #266Why don't we tackle this from another direction, what is unconsciousness? If we can sensibly define that and then see what's left out when it comes to our own minds, might we get somewhere?Thomas123 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:59 am This word appears to be at the centre of many discussions on this forum. It also appears to mean different things to different people and, therein lies the root of our miscommunication. What range and definement do you attribute to, ' consciousness ' ?
Is there an external consciousness in the world?. Can I tune into a shared consciousness. I am listening to Prime Minister's Question Time, ....is Boris tuned into a universal human consciousness as he delivers his address. Is his brain working ,simultaneously and in tandem with my own consciousness and with that of others?
Is transistor unconscious? is a NAND gate unconscious? what about a radio?
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Re: What is ' consciousness ' ?
Post #267Can the whole universe be conscious? I don't see why not. If a Human form can have consciousness, why not the whole universe?
Unconsciousness is simply that which one is not conscious of.
Unconsciousness is simply that which one is not conscious of.
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Post #268What better way to avoid answering a simple question than by disingenuously questioning the meaning of a word and thrusting the burden back on to the questioner to define what is already understood to be the intended meaning. A tactic often used by some here. If you try it in reverse, you are immediately accused of not understanding the basics of what you are attempting to debate. Usually not worth following such people down the rabbit hole.
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Re: What is ' consciousness ' ?
Post #269Inquirer wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:26 am [Replying to Diogenes in post #260]
Its not a difficult question for me, it is the question Joey has repeatedly refused to answer.
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Post #270Good, a picture of a real projector at last.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:27 amInquirer wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:26 am [Replying to Diogenes in post #260]
Its not a difficult question for me, it is the question Joey has repeatedly refused to answer.