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Did humans descend from other primates?

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otseng wrote: Man did not descend from the primates.
Did humans descend from other primates?
Are humans primates or should there be special biological taxonomy for humanity?
Please cite evidence.
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AkiThePirate wrote:Are you sure?

238U => He2+ + 234Th
Where do the neutrons come from? That's my question.

U-238 goes to He2 and Th-234 (adding up to 236), plus 2 neutrons (adding up to 238)
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[color=green]Goat[/color] wrote:
[color=violet]AkiThePirate[/color] wrote:Are you sure?

238U => He2+ + 234Th
Where do the neutrons come from? That's my question.

U-238 goes to He2 and Th-234 (adding up to 236), plus 2 neutrons (adding up to 238)
He2+ is composed of two neutrons and two protons.

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AkiThePirate wrote:
[color=green]Goat[/color] wrote:
[color=violet]AkiThePirate[/color] wrote:Are you sure?

238U => He2+ + 234Th
Where do the neutrons come from? That's my question.

U-238 goes to He2 and Th-234 (adding up to 236), plus 2 neutrons (adding up to 238)
He2+ is composed of two neutrons and two protons.
You are right.. however, there is a paper that discusses this,,.. can't find the paper though

^ Jull, A.J.T.; Barker, D., Donahue, D. J. (12 1985). "Carbon-14 Abundances in Uranium Ores and Possible Spontaneous Exotic Emission from U-Series Nuclides". Meteorics 20: 676.
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This?
From my perspective, it's still an open problem as otseng claimed.

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AkiThePirate wrote:This?
From my perspective, it's still an open problem as otseng claimed.

Then, tell me, why is C-14 underground where there is uranium ore, but not where it is absent?
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I do not know. It would seem that others don't really either.

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Goat wrote:
AkiThePirate wrote:This?
From my perspective, it's still an open problem as otseng claimed.
Then, tell me, why is C-14 underground where there is uranium ore, but not where it is absent?
One point is that association does not necessarily mean causation.

Can someone please provide references to this so that we can look further at the data?

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otseng wrote:
Goat wrote:
AkiThePirate wrote:This?
From my perspective, it's still an open problem as otseng claimed.
Then, tell me, why is C-14 underground where there is uranium ore, but not where it is absent?
One point is that association does not necessarily mean causation.

Can someone please provide references to this so that we can look further at the data?

^ Jull, A.J.T.; Barker, D., Donahue, D. J. (12 1985). "Carbon-14 Abundances in Uranium Ores and Possible Spontaneous Exotic Emission from U-Series Nuclides". Meteorics 20
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Being honest, that paper is anything but conclusive.
It's more of an article about the problem than a mechanism allowing for it.

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Any chance an online copy is available for a layman like me to be able to peek at?

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