Probability of a Creator
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Probability of a Creator
Post #1God's Blueprint - Scientific Evidence that Earth was Created for Humans - Author Christopher Knight
For debate...
Do you agree or disagree with the views of Mr. Knight?
What do you disagree with?
What do you agree with?
What is your opinion on his views?
What is your opinion on the probability/possibility of a creator with purpose?
Unfortunately I could not find the interview in written form. so I chopped out the part I wanted to focus on.
Intro
http://vid1206.photobucket.com/albums/b ... qsdyag.mp4
Views
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You can view the full video here:
John 8:32
. . .the truth will set you free.
. . .the truth will set you free.
Re: Probability of a Creator
Post #201Your problem is that you can only claim a connection between your cause and effect. Each and every claim you make can be easily falsified with naught but a single example of where the same thing occurred without bible study (e.g., I know of a case where someone took a handbag with a lot of cash in it to the police, who where ultimately able to return it to its owner ... no Bibles or study required).theStudent wrote: [Replying to post 192 by Monta]
There is a lot more that can be given along with what Ron got.
There are people who return wads of money they find, even though they are in need of it, only because the studied the Bible.
Members of rival gangs have become "brothers", only because they studied the Bible.
Persons are spending time in prison for refusing to go to war and kill their neighbor, only because they studied the Bible.
I have mentioned my own experience.
All of this evidence is observable, and can be tested with accurate results.
Post #202
As you do not know 'my' God, you have no idea what you are talking about.man wrote: [Replying to post 194 by Monta]
If ever there were anything needing a demotion it's god.
Your god is a false authority, that's why the words “because god says so� will NOT work as a legitimate argument in any court of law in the United States.
Your god has no power over anyone but his brainwashed followers.
If you want an example of why this is so just look at the Middle East and their barbaric and oppressive laws.
I don't need to look at Middle East, I can look at our western Christian countries and see dead in injured in millions.
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Post #203
[Replying to post 198 by RonE]
What was I talking about?
What were we talking about?
What did I say?
Is there any difference between morals and prayer?
I am of the opinion there is.
Feel free to read my posts.... carefully.
What was I talking about?
What were we talking about?
What did I say?
Is there any difference between morals and prayer?
I am of the opinion there is.
Feel free to read my posts.... carefully.
John 8:32
. . .the truth will set you free.
. . .the truth will set you free.
Post #204
[Replying to post 203 by theStudent]What were we doing?
We were reviewing your flip-flops, don't you remember?
We were reviewing your flip-flops, don't you remember?
Re: Probability of a Creator
Post #205[Replying to RonE]
ME:
"You wanted evidence did you not? Why ask for it here on this forum?
My religion has made me moral and it has changed life of a friend.
Not scientific?
If it is not good enough, please go to scientits only forum and ask there."
YOU:
"This is the "science & religion" sub-forum. You might be in the wrong place if you are looking for a safe haven for your claims. The guidelines for this sub-forum include:
Quote:.."
I am comfortable here. You wanted evidence and when given it was not good enough for you, not scientific, therefore my suggestion to seek science only forum; this is religion and science so expect some faith based answers.
ME:
"You wanted evidence did you not? Why ask for it here on this forum?
My religion has made me moral and it has changed life of a friend.
Not scientific?
If it is not good enough, please go to scientits only forum and ask there."
YOU:
"This is the "science & religion" sub-forum. You might be in the wrong place if you are looking for a safe haven for your claims. The guidelines for this sub-forum include:
Quote:.."
I am comfortable here. You wanted evidence and when given it was not good enough for you, not scientific, therefore my suggestion to seek science only forum; this is religion and science so expect some faith based answers.
Post #207
[Replying to post 203 by theStudent]
I'll make it simple for you. All I want you to do is provide credible evidence to support your claims for your supernatural god. You've made extraordinary claims of a supernatural god, the intelligence behind the creation that you claim. On this forum you are required to support your claims, or withdraw them.
This is your topic which you named "PROBABILITY OF A CREATOR", so here's your challenge: provide scientific evidence to support your extraordinary claims of a supernatural being or withdraw them.
I'm not surprised your confused about what you said, first you love science then you disavow all knowledge of it. You ramble around trying to misdirect every valid argument that confronts you. Like a 6 year old who has twisted his story of who broke the cookie jar so much that the adults in the room are just laughing.theStudent wrote: [Replying to post 198 by RonE]
What was I talking about?
What were we talking about?
What did I say?
A poor attempt at a red herring.Is there any difference between morals and prayer?
I am of the opinion there is.
Feel free to read my posts.... carefully.
I'll make it simple for you. All I want you to do is provide credible evidence to support your claims for your supernatural god. You've made extraordinary claims of a supernatural god, the intelligence behind the creation that you claim. On this forum you are required to support your claims, or withdraw them.
This is your topic which you named "PROBABILITY OF A CREATOR", so here's your challenge: provide scientific evidence to support your extraordinary claims of a supernatural being or withdraw them.
*"On the other hand, we have people who are believers who are so completely sold on the literal interpretation of the first book of the Bible that they are rejecting very compelling scientific data about the age of the earth and the relatedness of living beings." Francis S. Collins, M.D., Ph.D.
*The Atheist has the comfort of no fears for an afterlife and lacks any compulsion to blow himself up.
* Science flies to you the moon.... religion flies you into buildings.
* Faith isn’t a virtue; it is the glorification of voluntary ignorance.
*The Atheist has the comfort of no fears for an afterlife and lacks any compulsion to blow himself up.
* Science flies to you the moon.... religion flies you into buildings.
* Faith isn’t a virtue; it is the glorification of voluntary ignorance.
Re: Probability of a Creator
Post #208[Replying to post 205 by Monta]
[font=Comic Sans MS]Please, review the rules of the forum & this sub-forum.[/font]
The real reason you don't comply with my requests for evidence is you don't have any. No scientifically verifiable evidence to support your claims. So please comply with the rules of this forum and support your claims, or withdraw them.Monta wrote: [Replying to RonE]
ME:
"You wanted evidence did you not? Why ask for it here on this forum?
My religion has made me moral and it has changed life of a friend.
Not scientific?
If it is not good enough, please go to scientits only forum and ask there."
YOU:
"This is the "science & religion" sub-forum. You might be in the wrong place if you are looking for a safe haven for your claims.
[font=Comic Sans MS]Please, review the rules of the forum & this sub-forum.[/font]
*"On the other hand, we have people who are believers who are so completely sold on the literal interpretation of the first book of the Bible that they are rejecting very compelling scientific data about the age of the earth and the relatedness of living beings." Francis S. Collins, M.D., Ph.D.
*The Atheist has the comfort of no fears for an afterlife and lacks any compulsion to blow himself up.
* Science flies to you the moon.... religion flies you into buildings.
* Faith isn’t a virtue; it is the glorification of voluntary ignorance.
*The Atheist has the comfort of no fears for an afterlife and lacks any compulsion to blow himself up.
* Science flies to you the moon.... religion flies you into buildings.
* Faith isn’t a virtue; it is the glorification of voluntary ignorance.
Post #209
I know your god all too well.Monta wrote:As you do not know 'my' God, you have no idea what you are talking about.man wrote: [Replying to post 194 by Monta]
If ever there were anything needing a demotion it's god.
Your god is a false authority, that's why the words “because god says so� will NOT work as a legitimate argument in any court of law in the United States.
Your god has no power over anyone but his brainwashed followers.
If you want an example of why this is so just look at the Middle East and their barbaric and oppressive laws.
I don't need to look at Middle East, I can look at our western Christian countries and see dead in injured in millions.
He is so simple and easy to understand that even young children understand him.
If not for that religion would have gone out of business a long time ago.
Re: Probability of a Creator
Post #210[Replying to RonE]
"The real reason you don't comply with my requests for evidence is you don't have any. No scientifically verifiable evidence to support your claims. So please comply with the rules of this forum and support your claims, or withdraw them."
You can't have it all your way.
This is not Science forum, but Science and Religion forum.
"The real reason you don't comply with my requests for evidence is you don't have any. No scientifically verifiable evidence to support your claims. So please comply with the rules of this forum and support your claims, or withdraw them."
You can't have it all your way.
This is not Science forum, but Science and Religion forum.