Explain the Flood.

[McCulloch]

There are simulations which explain how the flood in Genesis could have occurred. Many reject the calculations because of the source, rather than the math and simulations themselves. If the math is wrong, that is one thing, but if the math is correct but rejected because it is based on a biblical theory, this is an inconsistent approach to analyzing information.

Are there any simulations which explain how the flood described in the Book of Genesis could have actually occurred? Are any of these simulations consistent with what is known about geology, meteorology, chemistry, physics, biology, archeology, and cosmology?

[FinalEnigma]

There are simulations which explain how the flood in Genesis could have occurred. Many reject the calculations because of the source, rather than the math and simulations themselves. If the math is wrong, that is one thing, but if the math is correct but rejected because it is based on a biblical theory, this is an inconsistent approach to analyzing information.

Are there any simulations which explain how the flood described in the Book of Genesis could have actually occurred? Are any of these simulations consistent with what is known about geology, meteorology, chemistry, physics, biology, archeology, and cosmology?

Could we specify here, for the purpose of this debate, whether the flood is defined as a worldwide flood, or whether a local flood would be considered acceptable?

[H.sapiens]

There are simulations which explain how the flood in Genesis could have occurred. Many reject the calculations because of the source, rather than the math and simulations themselves. If the math is wrong, that is one thing, but if the math is correct but rejected because it is based on a biblical theory, this is an inconsistent approach to analyzing information.

Are there any simulations which explain how the flood described in the Book of Genesis could have actually occurred? Are any of these simulations consistent with what is known about geology, meteorology, chemistry, physics, biology, archeology, and cosmology?

No there are not.

[DanieltheDragon]

[Replying to post 2 by FinalEnigma]

I would say no to local floods being admissible since the bible is very specific to it being global. If we set the baseline to local flooding then we are in admission of the whole tale being bunk from the onset. The reasoning being that the bible is very specific to the global nature of the event. Additionally it undercuts those who attributed these tales to begin with as being ignorant of the events occurring before them

[FinalEnigma]

[Replying to post 2 by FinalEnigma]

I would say no to local floods being admissible since the bible is very specific to it being global. If we set the baseline to local flooding then we are in admission of the whole tale being bunk from the onset. The reasoning being that the bible is very specific to the global nature of the event. Additionally it undercuts those who attributed these tales to begin with as being ignorant of the events occurring before them

Okay. I am in agreement. I just wanted to specify for the purpose of the debate so that everyone is on the same page.

Given this, then I would have to say that I have not seen any viable models to explain this.

[McCulloch]

This flood:

Then the flood came upon the earth for forty days, and the water increased and lifted up the ark, so that it rose above the earth. The water prevailed and increased greatly upon the earth, and the ark floated on the surface of the water. The water prevailed more and more upon the earth, so that all the high mountains everywhere under the heavens were covered. The water prevailed fifteen cubits higher, and the mountains were covered. All flesh that moved on the earth perished, birds and cattle and beasts and every swarming thing that swarms upon the earth, and all mankind; of all that was on the dry land, all in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life, died. Thus He blotted out every living thing that was upon the face of the land, from man to animals to creeping things and to birds of the sky, and they were blotted out from the earth; and only Noah was left, together with those that were with him in the ark. The water prevailed upon the earth one hundred and fifty days.

[Divine Insight]

There are simulations which explain how the flood in Genesis could have occurred. Many reject the calculations because of the source, rather than the math and simulations themselves. If the math is wrong, that is one thing, but if the math is correct but rejected because it is based on a biblical theory, this is an inconsistent approach to analyzing information.

Are there any simulations which explain how the flood described in the Book of Genesis could have actually occurred? Are any of these simulations consistent with what is known about geology, meteorology, chemistry, physics, biology, archeology, and cosmology?

I don't see how there could be any simulations that could emulate a global flood using known scientific data.

Someone would need to point to one that I could read or watch on YouTube, and I will gladly point out why it fails miserably.

I'm certain that it must necessarily fail. There's no question about that.

[H.sapiens]

This flood:

Then the flood came upon the earth for forty days, and the water increased and lifted up the ark, so that it rose above the earth. The water prevailed and increased greatly upon the earth, and the ark floated on the surface of the water. The water prevailed more and more upon the earth, so that all the high mountains everywhere under the heavens were covered. The water prevailed fifteen cubits higher, and the mountains were covered. All flesh that moved on the earth perished, birds and cattle and beasts and every swarming thing that swarms upon the earth, and all mankind; of all that was on the dry land, all in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life, died. Thus He blotted out every living thing that was upon the face of the land, from man to animals to creeping things and to birds of the sky, and they were blotted out from the earth; and only Noah was left, together with those that were with him in the ark. The water prevailed upon the earth one hundred and fifty days.

Never happened.

[Monta]

[Replying to post 2 by FinalEnigma]

I would say no to local floods being admissible since the bible is very specific to it being global. If we set the baseline to local flooding then we are in admission of the whole tale being bunk from the onset. The reasoning being that the bible is very specific to the global nature of the event. Additionally it undercuts those who attributed these tales to begin with as being ignorant of the events occurring before them

Just as it was in the days of Noah so today we are flooded
with distortions of truth, lawless killings, with pornography, paedophelia,
physical/mental/emotional violence.

[Wootah]

[Replying to post 2 by FinalEnigma]

I would say no to local floods being admissible since the bible is very specific to it being global. If we set the baseline to local flooding then we are in admission of the whole tale being bunk from the onset. The reasoning being that the bible is very specific to the global nature of the event. Additionally it undercuts those who attributed these tales to begin with as being ignorant of the events occurring before them

Just as it was in the days of Noah so today we are flooded
with distortions of truth, lawless killings, with pornography, paedophelia,
physical/mental/emotional violence.

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