Did Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens ....?

[paarsurrey1]

Did Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens have a shallow knowledge of Religion?

Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens, they have a shallow knowledge of Religion proper and whatever they have written against religion is not science even, as religion is not a subject/discipline of science. Right, please?
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[help3434]

So, Islam was Hitchens primary target without having in-depth study about Islam/Quran/Muhammad.
Hitchens was born into the Pauline-Christianity, maybe he had some study of this religion, but I leave that for the Christians to comment on this, for the time being, he just generalized this impression to Islam. He was wrong there, it is not a reasonable and rational approach. Right, please?
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Do you have to study Islam in-depth to see all the harm done by Islamic terrorism and Sharia based oppression? You don't have to read a word of the Quran to clearly see that Islam is the religion causing the most harm in the world today.

[paarsurrey1]

So, Islam was Hitchens primary target without having in-depth study about Islam/Quran/Muhammad.
Hitchens was born into the Pauline-Christianity, maybe he had some study of this religion, but I leave that for the Christians to comment on this, for the time being, he just generalized this impression to Islam. He was wrong there, it is not a reasonable and rational approach. Right, please?
Regards

Do you have to study Islam in-depth to see all the harm done by Islamic terrorism and Sharia based oppression? You don't have to read a word of the Quran to clearly see that Islam is the religion causing the most harm in the world today.

The terrorists are doing politics. They don't follow the teachings and deeds of Islam/Quran/Muhammad, so the terrorists and their ramblings are to be blamed, it is wrong to blame Islam/Quran/Muhammad.
Sorry, one is wrong there.
Right, please?
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[SkyChief]

You don't have to read a word of the Quran to clearly see that Islam is the religion causing the most harm in the world today.

Hitchens basically says this, but he used a more *cough* scornful tone:

"The most toxic form that religion takes is the Islamic form - the horrible idea of wanting to end up with a Shariah-governed state - a state of religious Law - and the best means of getting there is jihad holy war. That Muslims have a special right to feel aggrieved enough to demand this - I think is obscene wickedness."

He singled out Islam as the toxic religion because the ultimate goal is global Shariah Law. Judaism and Christianity don't share this goal.

[Monta]

[Replying to post 10 by paarsurrey1]


"Christopher Hitchens chose the title of the book as "God is not Great", and the Muslims have a slogan/motto "Allahu Akbar" or "God is the Greatest"*. This shows that he had in his mind to criticise Religion and oppose Quran/Islam/Muhammad, primarily. He had no knowledge of Quran as is evident, perhaps he never read it, or if he read Quran he could find no verse supporting his irrational views. There he failed miserably. Right, please?
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Agree. All the main religions see God as a Supreme Being/Creator of all there is
and he should be well versed in all religions if he wants to appear as someone who knows something about God.

Bashing religion sells books.

[paarsurrey1]

You don't have to read a word of the Quran to clearly see that Islam is the religion causing the most harm in the world today.

Hitchens basically says this, but he used a more *cough* scornful tone:

"The most toxic form that religion takes is the Islamic form - the horrible idea of wanting to end up with a Shariah-governed state - a state of religious Law - and the best means of getting there is jihad holy war. That Muslims have a special right to feel aggrieved enough to demand this - I think is obscene wickedness."

He singled out Islam as the toxic religion because the ultimate goal is global Shariah Law. Judaism and Christianity don't share this goal.

the ultimate goal is global Shariah Law

It is a wrong notion not supported by Quran to enforce any law forcibly in any country not to speak of globally. The words "Sharia Law" are not even mentioned in Quran.
Please quote from Quran where it is mentioned to support ones viewpoint. Right, please?
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[paarsurrey1]

[Replying to post 10 by paarsurrey1]


"Christopher Hitchens chose the title of the book as "God is not Great", and the Muslims have a slogan/motto "Allahu Akbar" or "God is the Greatest"*. This shows that he had in his mind to criticise Religion and oppose Quran/Islam/Muhammad, primarily. He had no knowledge of Quran as is evident, perhaps he never read it, or if he read Quran he could find no verse supporting his irrational views. There he failed miserably. Right, please?
Regards "

Agree. All the main religions see God as a Supreme Being/Creator of all there is
and he should be well versed in all religions if he wants to appear as someone who knows something about God.

Bashing religion sells books.

Bashing religion sells books

I believe many people are doing this, it is detrimental to establish peace in the world.
I believe/understand that when Christopher Hitchens had prepared the write-up of the book and gave it to the publisher for publishing it, the publishers suggested him to name the book "God is not Great", and with this title it will sell most.

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[help3434]

Bashing religion sells books

I believe many people are doing this, it is detrimental to establish peace in the world.


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In Hitchens view it is religion that is detrimental to establishing peace.

[Rufus21]

All the main religions see God as a Supreme Being/Creator of all there is
and he should be well versed in all religions if he wants to appear as someone who knows something about God.

But if a group of religions all share the same god, all you have to do is disprove the original one and the rest will fall like dominoes. Once Hitchens disproves the Christian god, that automatically disproves Catholics, Mormons, Muslims, Jehovah's Witnesses, etc. If they are all based on the same false god, you don't need to know the specific traditions of each individual religion.

Like I said before, once you see how the magic trick is done you can spot it easily, even when someone adapts it.

Bashing religion sells books.

Bashing the bible doesn't make nearly as much money as thumping it. I'm sure we all agree on that. Plus you have to pay your fair share of taxes!

[Monta]

[Replying to post 28 by Rufus21]


"Like I said before, once you see how the magic trick is done you can spot it easily, even when someone adapts it. "

There is no magic trick only individual ways of perceiving.

The idea of God dwells in inmost parts of a human being.
God is one but we are all different.
Some people even change their religion because they find it easier to understand one teaching in prefference to another. This does not change God as He is in Himself.

[Rufus21]

There is no magic trick only individual ways of perceiving.

But those perceptions are based on religion.

Religion is a misdirection - it attracts your attention to certain beliefs while concealing the truth. It shows people what it wants them to see and obscures what is really happening. The Science and Religion forum is full of examples of this. People will emphatically ignore the facts in order to support their faith.

Once you see it, you will be able to see the same flaws in every religion. It's like watching a psychic medium - they have all been using the same techniques and tricks to fool people for hundreds of years. Every medium has their own version of the tricks, but they're all the same. Once you learn the scam you can catch them every time.