- Adam and Eve have an "explicit role in the biblical creation myth as being the first humans."
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Were Adam and Eve the First Humans?
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Were Adam and Eve the First Humans?
Post #1In the thread "Genetics and Adam and Eve," DrNoGods claimed that the creation narrative in Genesis describes Adam and Eve as the first humans. He said that
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Re: Were Adam and Eve the First Humans?
Post #31They were the first humans created by God in His own Image.
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Re: Were Adam and Eve the First Humans?
Post #32jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:42 amThey were the first humans created by God in His own Image.
So when god made Adam and Eve there were other humans roaming around? Interesting.
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Re: Were Adam and Eve the First Humans?
Post #33Devils, when God created Adam and Eve there were devils and their offspring roaming the earth.Miles wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:16 pmjimtatertayte wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:42 amThey were the first humans created by God in His own Image.
So when God made Adam and Eve there were other humans roaming around? Interesting.
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Re: Were Adam and Eve the First Humans?
Post #34Nope. You said there were "humans."jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:06 pmDevils, when God created Adam and Eve there were devils and their offspring roaming the earth.Miles wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:16 pmjimtatertayte wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:42 amThey were the first humans created by God in His own Image.
So when God made Adam and Eve there were other humans roaming around? Interesting.
In any case, I assume your information about there being devils comes from Genesis____:____ . Please fill in the blanks.
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Re: Were Adam and Eve the First Humans?
Post #35Some Devils are human. Have you not ever read that it is written:Miles wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:24 pmNope. You said there were "humans."jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:06 pmDevils, when God created Adam and Eve there were devils and their offspring roaming the earth.Miles wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:16 pmjimtatertayte wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:42 amThey were the first humans created by God in His own Image.
So when God made Adam and Eve there were other humans roaming around? Interesting.
In any case, I assume your information about there being devils comes from Genesis____:____ . Please fill in the blanks.
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John 6:70
Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
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Re: Were Adam and Eve the First Humans?
Post #36So what? Where is it said that these pr-A&E humans were devils?jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:43 pmSome Devils are human.Miles wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:24 pmNope. You said there were "humans."jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:06 pmDevils, when God created Adam and Eve there were devils and their offspring roaming the earth.Miles wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:16 pmjimtatertayte wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:42 amThey were the first humans created by God in His own Image.
So when God made Adam and Eve there were other humans roaming around? Interesting.
In any case, I assume your information about there being devils comes from Genesis____:____ . Please fill in the blanks.
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Yes I have. And I have also read that in John 6:70 it is written that this particular "one":jimtatertayte wrote: Have you not ever read that it is written:
John 6:70
Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
Is an "accuser"
Is an "adversary"
Is a "demon"
Has a "devil in his heart"
John 6:70
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‘Well,’ replied Jesus, ‘I chose you twelve, didn’t I? And one of you is an accuser!’
CJB
Yeshua answered them, “Didn’t I choose you, the Twelve? Yet one of you is an adversary.”
CEV
Jesus told his disciples, “I chose all twelve of you, but one of you is a demon!.”
PHILLIPS
Jesus replied, “Did I not choose you twelve—and one of you has the devil in his heart?”
‘Well,’ replied Jesus, ‘I chose you twelve, didn’t I? And one of you is an accuser!’
CJB
Yeshua answered them, “Didn’t I choose you, the Twelve? Yet one of you is an adversary.”
CEV
Jesus told his disciples, “I chose all twelve of you, but one of you is a demon!.”
PHILLIPS
Jesus replied, “Did I not choose you twelve—and one of you has the devil in his heart?”
So I have a choice, and I pick "accuser."
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Re: Were Adam and Eve the First Humans?
Post #37So you do not believe that Judas was actually a devil?Miles wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:09 pmSo what? Where is it said that these pr-A&E humans were devils?jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:43 pmSome Devils are human.Miles wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:24 pmNope. You said there were "humans."jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:06 pmDevils, when God created Adam and Eve there were devils and their offspring roaming the earth.Miles wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:16 pmjimtatertayte wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:42 amThey were the first humans created by God in His own Image.
So when God made Adam and Eve there were other humans roaming around? Interesting.
In any case, I assume your information about there being devils comes from Genesis____:____ . Please fill in the blanks.
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Yes I have. And I have also read that in John 6:70 it is written that this particular "one":jimtatertayte wrote: Have you not ever read that it is written:
John 6:70
Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
Is an "accuser"
Is an "adversary"
Is a "demon"
Has a "devil in his heart"
John 6:70
NTE
‘Well,’ replied Jesus, ‘I chose you twelve, didn’t I? And one of you is an accuser!’
CJB
Yeshua answered them, “Didn’t I choose you, the Twelve? Yet one of you is an adversary.”
CEV
Jesus told his disciples, “I chose all twelve of you, but one of you is a demon!.”
PHILLIPS
Jesus replied, “Did I not choose you twelve—and one of you has the devil in his heart?”
So I have a choice, and I pick "accuser."
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Re: Were Adam and Eve the First Humans?
Post #38No more so than I imagine you believe he wasn't a devil, but rather,jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:02 amSo you do not believe that Judas was actually a devil?Miles wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:09 pmSo what? Where is it said that these pr-A&E humans were devils?jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:43 pmSome Devils are human.Miles wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:24 pmNope. You said there were "humans."jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:06 pmDevils, when God created Adam and Eve there were devils and their offspring roaming the earth.Miles wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:16 pmjimtatertayte wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:42 amThey were the first humans created by God in His own Image.
So when God made Adam and Eve there were other humans roaming around? Interesting.
In any case, I assume your information about there being devils comes from Genesis____:____ . Please fill in the blanks.
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Yes I have. And I have also read that in John 6:70 it is written that this particular "one":jimtatertayte wrote: Have you not ever read that it is written:
John 6:70
Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
Is an "accuser"
Is an "adversary"
Is a "demon"
Has a "devil in his heart"
John 6:70
NTE
‘Well,’ replied Jesus, ‘I chose you twelve, didn’t I? And one of you is an accuser!’
CJB
Yeshua answered them, “Didn’t I choose you, the Twelve? Yet one of you is an adversary.”
CEV
Jesus told his disciples, “I chose all twelve of you, but one of you is a demon!.”
PHILLIPS
Jesus replied, “Did I not choose you twelve—and one of you has the devil in his heart?”
So I have a choice, and I pick "accuser."
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An "accuser," or
An "adversary," or
A "demon," or
Has a "devil in his heart"
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Re: Were Adam and Eve the First Humans?
Post #39Do you even know what is a devil?Miles wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:26 pmNo more so than I imagine you believe he wasn't a devil, but rather,jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:02 amSo you do not believe that Judas was actually a devil?Miles wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:09 pmSo what? Where is it said that these pr-A&E humans were devils?jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:43 pmSome Devils are human.Miles wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:24 pmNope. You said there were "humans."jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:06 pmDevils, when God created Adam and Eve there were devils and their offspring roaming the earth.Miles wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:16 pmjimtatertayte wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:42 amThey were the first humans created by God in His own Image.
So when God made Adam and Eve there were other humans roaming around? Interesting.
In any case, I assume your information about there being devils comes from Genesis____:____ . Please fill in the blanks.
.
Yes I have. And I have also read that in John 6:70 it is written that this particular "one":jimtatertayte wrote: Have you not ever read that it is written:
John 6:70
Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
Is an "accuser"
Is an "adversary"
Is a "demon"
Has a "devil in his heart"
John 6:70
NTE
‘Well,’ replied Jesus, ‘I chose you twelve, didn’t I? And one of you is an accuser!’
CJB
Yeshua answered them, “Didn’t I choose you, the Twelve? Yet one of you is an adversary.”
CEV
Jesus told his disciples, “I chose all twelve of you, but one of you is a demon!.”
PHILLIPS
Jesus replied, “Did I not choose you twelve—and one of you has the devil in his heart?”
So I have a choice, and I pick "accuser."
.
An "accuser," or
An "adversary," or
A "demon," or
Has a "devil in his heart"
.
What is a devil? Explain it to me.
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Re: Were Adam and Eve the First Humans?
Post #40Given that you made the following claim:jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:06 pm
Do you even know what is a devil?
What is a devil? Explain it to me.
You need to explain what you meant by the word devils in this quote above. That and of course actually provide evidence to support this claim. Whether or not Judas was a devil is irrelevant to your claim. What others think of the meaning of word devil is also irrelevant. What matters is what you think it means and your ability to support your claim.jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:06 pm
Devils, when God created Adam and Eve there were devils and their offspring roaming the earth.
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