William wrote:
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Replying to post 39]
William: "Whatever human declarations mean to you or I, or the ripple effects that might come from these, - big or little - is for each of us to determine based upon our own experience and consequent choice of reaction."
Clownboat: This is not a mechanism
William: I agree. What gave you the impression I was calling that a mechanism? Clearly I was referring to that as a consequence.
Clownboat: mech·an·ism
/ˈmekəˌnizəm/
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noun
1.
a system of parts working together in a machine; a piece of machinery.
2.
a natural or established process by which something takes place or is brought about.
William: I agree.
Clownboat: I asked if you could provide such a mechanism.
William: As I wrote in a previous post;
- When one thinks of AI - computers and such other tech, one understands how brains don't necessarily have to be organic in order to function as devices which Consciousness can utilize.
Our own planet has all the elements of such a brain.
Ideally if you want to discuss/debate, you need to read what others write. Clearly you missed my reference to the mechanism in your clamber to misinterpret me with your returning comment;
- That was a lot of words to avoid saying:
"I'm not aware of a mechanism for planets to become alive"
Perhaps you should try again, with some decorum, and address what I actually wrote rather than the strawman you created.
The mechanism I was describing was the form - the
planet itself.
Copy and pasted from post 37 for any readers that would like to see the exchange.
Clownboat: I only care to compare claimed mechanisms. You cannot provide one to compare to another.
William: I did provide one. I don't care that you missed it, or that fear might not be the cause of you missing it.
Whatever human declarations mean to you or I, or the ripple effects that might come from these, - big or little - is for each of us to determine based upon our own experience and consequent choice of reaction.
Now William alludes to some other post in some other post #:
William: As I wrote in a previous post;
When one thinks of AI - computers and such other tech, one understands how brains don't necessarily have to be organic in order to function as devices which Consciousness can utilize.
Our own planet has all the elements of such a brain.
If this is a valid mechanism for how a planet can become alive, can someone please break it down for me?
Perhaps if I provide an example of what I'm looking for?
Abiogenesis and a possible mechanism:
Simple elements combined to form compounds. The compounds became more structured and involved different substances. Eventually, simple organic compounds were formed and linked to produce complex molecules such as amino acids.
What is the offered mechanism for a planet becoming alive?
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