"I am only able to see gibberish"
I am presently sharing my Generated Messages with a variety of internet platforms and have noticed that non-theists insist that they only see 'gibberish' [unintelligible or meaningless speech or writing; nonsense.] whereas with theists - no matter what particular belief they have - they appear to be able to - at least - get the gist of any GM - even if some of it is not understood.
To begin with, I was highly skeptical and thought that non-theists were being disingenuous [pretending that one knows less about something than one really does.] and in that, I used other ways in which to try and help them to understand what was taking place, [such as diagrams and analogies], but nothing helped.
This has lead me to question my skepticism and I am now wondering if it is just the case that once an individual unreservedly believes that they - the mind/consciousness - are nothing more than brain chemicals, anything contrary to that understanding simply isn't able to penetrate because "The Mind' only happens in brains and is the reason minds exist."
Is it the case that
1. non-theists are simply unable to 'get their head around ideas' which are outside of the idea that we are simply emergent properties of brains, [every other idea is gibberish/gobbledygook
or
2. are they just being disingenuous?
The Thesist and non-Theist Brain
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Re: The Thesist and non-Theist Brain
Post #81No more than I would suggest that all non-theists are atheists.
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Re: The Thesist and non-Theist Brain
Post #82When you can't demonstrate that what you speak is the truth, run away.William wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:56 pm [Replying to Sherlock Holmes in post #72]
Given that what you say is true - the only thing left to do is to disengage.
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Post #83I see this a lot. I admit I'm ashamed and at a loss that I don't really know what to do about it.
You should only give your time to people who are genuinely listening.
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Re: The Thesist and non-Theist Brain
Post #84The problem is that for some people that means only those who are agreeing with what one is saying.Purple Knight wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 8:14 pm You should only give your time to people who are genuinely listening.
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Re: The Thesist and non-Theist Brain
Post #85The people you describe aren't really listening either.brunumb wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 8:17 pmThe problem is that for some people that means only those who are agreeing with what one is saying.Purple Knight wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 8:14 pm You should only give your time to people who are genuinely listening.
I try to not only understand but actually explore what someone is saying and not be dismissive. Even if I don't happen to think something is true, I suspend my disbelief when I'm analyzing it and I think that's the only way that's really fair. If it's actually false I eventually come to a contradiction anyway, but I don't go down that road long enough to come to that devastating speedbump unless I actually travel down the road.
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Re: The Thesist and non-Theist Brain
Post #86A non-theist would see it that way due to their understanding of the mind. By all means, if it helps you to see it that way, be the "winner."brunumb wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 8:12 pmWhen you can't demonstrate that what you speak is the truth, run away.William wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:56 pm [Replying to Sherlock Holmes in post #72]
Given that what you say is true - the only thing left to do is to disengage.
I have no horse in that race...
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