Slopeshoulder wrote:
Could you share some of them? What follows below sas it may be unwise, but not immoral per se.
Because of it, there is: jealousy, deception, depression,
These are psychological symptoms of immature people. Why blame sex for it? Why not say grow up or OK it's not for you (these people)?
unplanned pregnancies, lower prohibition, extreme inclination of the spread of STD's,
Technology is available to greatly reduce this if peole are responsible. Why abstain? Why not just use birth control/condoms/tests?
revenge and general social calamity.
Again, human failings. Why blame sex?
Biblical morals go a lot deeper then some may think.
How do you know what i think? ButI can tell you that the bible is only one source of discernment for me among others. I see the bibleoffering thematic wisdom like compassion, respect for persons, justice, etc, not a list of do's and don'ts.
[Face it, there is no real defense in positing that it actually points anywhere 'good' on the moral compass.
Face it? I disagree. I think unbridled libertinism and repression are both to be avoided. But a healthy responsible and robust sex life is a moral good.
Because we are fallen individuals, almost all of us are guilty of it, but that is no reason to condone it either.
Because we are fallen, we should strive to be good in all we do, including the sex we have. Why is abstinance the goal? Why not empathy, compassion, mutuality, consent, respect, expression, intimacy, enjoyment? I suggest that God cares about these things.
What came first, the deviant deed or social chaos?
Believe it or not, this is actually where moral relativity takes a mighty blow. If premarital sex was ever good in the first place, it would have never created such grievances in society.
And so it is inherently fallacious to call it good.
The whole of biblical morals is fixed on this notion alone. Whatever hurts a brother is a sin. It is tentamount to basic moral wisdom, something which moral relativism completely ignores.
I feel that it is literally one of the most supreme ironies of mankind at large. Biblical wisdom also tells that such is a petty justification for man's actions, and with enough critical thought, that's precisely what it is. What further adds to this injury is that
vanity is the original sin, and so it can in fact be
proven that moral relativity is justifying deviance with deviance.
The wise come to find out, eventually, that such morals are only relative to necessity. That is perhaps why there have been more martyrs in Christendom then any other religion or cause in history.
There is a reason why Scripture speaks on sexual immoralities more then any others. If you open up the Bible, you will realize this more and more. Even Jesus puts adultery, specifically, on the chopping block.
Everywhere you look, sexuality is everywhere. It is hardly restrained anymore in society, and it is because of the lacking prohibition I spoke of in my list of things I posted that comes from premarital sex. Because of that, we have to provide condoms, birth control, and funding for unplanned pregnancies and STDs. I think, where moral relativists go wrong, is the fact that these things are seen as 'cures' rather then *drum roll* justifying deviance with deviance. These things only promote it more, and so you just have a larger amount of all I listed to go with these proactive gambits.
Vanity, you see. It's the crux of sin.