Believing when you don't know any better is honest delusion, in my view.
But when you dilute and distort and disguise and discard Christian beliefs - like the Virgin Birth and the Global Flood and Eve and the Talking Serpent and Jesus returning to this planet with armies of angels to exterminate non-Christians, and other such long-held dogmas that aren't selling too well anymore - and you continue to proclaim the biblical writings as the Word of God, you are lying for Jesus.
When Delusion Becomes Downright Deception
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Re: When Delusion Becomes Downright Deception
Post #2[Replying to post 1 by StuartJ]
I have always felt this kind of stuff to be myth; stories made up to convey deeper truths. So, it doesn't get in the way of my faith, whatsoever.
Best wishes, 2RM.
I have always felt this kind of stuff to be myth; stories made up to convey deeper truths. So, it doesn't get in the way of my faith, whatsoever.
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When you admit that you feel "this kind of stuff to be myth", it begs the question of how you figure out which bits are real ...?
Not so long ago it was ALL real to Christians.
Now, like quasi-Atheists, many quasi-Christians recognise much of the stuff as myth ... and political propaganda.
And the dilute and distort and disguise and discard.
So what's honestly left of Christianity ...?
When you admit that you feel "this kind of stuff to be myth", it begs the question of how you figure out which bits are real ...?
Not so long ago it was ALL real to Christians.
Now, like quasi-Atheists, many quasi-Christians recognise much of the stuff as myth ... and political propaganda.
And the dilute and distort and disguise and discard.
So what's honestly left of Christianity ...?
No one EVER demonstrates that "God" exists outside their parietal cortex.
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Re: When Delusion Becomes Downright Deception
Post #4Yes, it does take a little informed common sense, I admit.StuartJ wrote: [Replying to post 2 by 2ndRateMind]
When you admit that you feel "this kind of stuff to be myth", it begs the question of how you figure out which bits are real ...?
The love Jesus lived and died to promote. Which is what Christianity was always meant to be all about, anyway, I guess.StuartJ wrote:So what's honestly left of Christianity ...?
Best wishes, 2RM.
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It's informative to note who the Gospel writers have the Jesus character say he loves.
And who he will turn against whom.
And how the Jesus character has been distorted by Christians.
We may start another thread on that.
It's informative to note who the Gospel writers have the Jesus character say he loves.
And who he will turn against whom.
And how the Jesus character has been distorted by Christians.
We may start another thread on that.
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I have trouble fathoming the deeper truth below flooding the entire planet and drowning followers of other versions of "God" ... and their babies.
But at least that's how we got fossil fuels ....
I have trouble fathoming the deeper truth below flooding the entire planet and drowning followers of other versions of "God" ... and their babies.
But at least that's how we got fossil fuels ....
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Post #8No one EVER demonstrates that "God" exists outside their parietal cortex.
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No, I don't, either. My basic reason is that it is inconsistent with the notion of God Jesus proposed; that He is the loving Father of all humanity. What is yours?
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No, I don't, either. My basic reason is that it is inconsistent with the notion of God Jesus proposed; that He is the loving Father of all humanity. What is yours?
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Post #10[Replying to post 9 by 2ndRateMind]
So you deliberately pick and choose and distort the supposed "Word of God" to suit what you WANT it to be.
You make my point perfectly.
So you deliberately pick and choose and distort the supposed "Word of God" to suit what you WANT it to be.
You make my point perfectly.
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