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Something never reported in the US press & here I ask why?
Rabbi’s think that they can spit the Catholics away----
Rabbi David Rosen is a talented and respected rabbi, originally from the UK.
Since in some circles it seems to be more encouraged to spit on Christian clergymen than build bridges (this week's events in the Old City), Rabbi Rosen is unpopular with Eskin and his ilk.
http://tinyurl.com/9rt8yn4

It has been Jerusalem's dirty little secret for decades: Orthodox yeshiva students and other Jewish residents vandalizing churches and spitting on Christian clergyman as they walk along the narrow, ancient stone streets of the Old City.
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Christians say ultra-Orthodox Jewish students spit at them or at the ground when they pass. There have also been acts of vandalism against statues of the Virgin Mary.
http://tinyurl.com/8g3zxwo

You cannot find one incident where Muslims spit on Christians but you can find countless incidents where

Google: “spitting on Christians”
I did & I got About 365,000 results [hits] (0.49 seconds)

Orthodox Jews spit on Christians. Has the American press ever covered the above-?

NO; the question is; why not?
Jerusalem's Christian community has demanded that Jewish leaders and the Israeli government take action against what they claim is growing harassment of their clergy by religious Jews.Christians say ultra-Orthodox Jewish students spit at them or at the ground when they pass. There have also been ...
Spitting on Christians, who be the spitters? | Christian Forums
https://www.christianforums.com › ... › Social Justice Ministries

- Christians in Jerusalem Want Jews to Stop Spitting on Them. A few weeks ago, a senior Greek Orthodox clergyman in Israel attended a meeting at a government office in Jerusalem's Givat Shaul quarter. When he returned to his car, an elderly man wearing a skullcap came and knocked on the window.

Reality is at your door. Muslims do not do the following & now you know who does

A very embarrassing and persistent problem has arisen in some of the sacred sites in Jerusalem where Christians and Jews cross each other's paths. Teenagers from a small sector of the city's many Ultra-Orthodox (“Haredi”) Ashkenazi Jewish communities have taken to spitting at clerics wearing prominent ...
Ynetnews Jewish Scene - ADL: Spitting at Christians a 'repulsive act'
ADL: Spitting at Christians a repulsive act
Christians in Jerusalem want Jews to stop spitting on them - Haaretz ...
https://www.haaretz.com/christians-in-j ... -on-them-1...
Jan 31, 2013 -
Christians Feel Growing Oppression in Israel - Open Doors USA
https://www.opendoorsusa.org/take.../ch ... in-israel/

Holy Spit: Why Do Ultra-Orthodox Jews Spit at Christians? | Religion ...
religiondispatches.org/holy-spit-why-do-ultra-orthodox-jews-spit-at-christians/

ADL: Spitting at Christians a 'repulsive act'. Jewish group calls on Israel's Chief Rabbinate to denounce decades-old ultra-Orthodox practice of spitting at Christian clergymen on the street. 'This is a hateful act of persecution against another faith group'. Ynetnews|Published: 15.12.11 , 15:19. The Anti-Defamation League ...

Brazilian 'Fiddler' director: Orthodox Jews spit on Christians | The ...
Brazilian ‘Fiddler’ director: Orthodox Jews spit on Christians...

An acclaimed Brazilian theater director who recently put on a successful production of “Fiddler on the Roof” compared a lawmaker who spit on a colleague to Orthodox Jews, whom he said routinely spit on Christians. Claudio Botelho made the remarks last week on Facebook, according ...

The oppression of Christians in Israel comes mostly from Ultra-Orthodox Jews; though a minority in the country, the religious group has a major influence. In February, several Israeli newspapers had reports on the growing oppression. The spitting is especially a problem for priests and pastors who stand out with their ...

Ultra-orthodox Jews 'must stop religious abuse' | World news | The ...
Ultra-orthodox Jews 'must stop religious abuse'

Googled “spitting on Christians” and I got 632000 results (0.34 seconds). Can you guess who the spitter's were/are? As a Christian does this trouble...

Spitting on God's Image | Christianity Today
www.christianitytoday.com › The Magazine › 2004 › December

Shirvanian said spitting against Christian clergyman had been going on for years. He said the assailants are religious Jews—men, women, teens, and children. "This shows that it is a phenomenon that is prevailing in their religious education and it should be corrected," he said. Daniel Rossing, director of the Jerusalem ...

ADL: Jews Should Not Spit at Christians - National Catholic Register
www.ncregister.com/blog/jimmy-akin/adl- ... christians

The Anti-Defamation League has refused to accept the explanation by the Israeli Chief Rabbinate about its efforts to combat the phenomenon of Ultra-Orthodox Jews spitting at Christian clergymen in Jerusalem's Old City. While the Rabbinate asserts the ADL is “misguided' in publicly lashing out at the ...


Has the US news ever reported the above?
NO, not even once
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One must wonder why? -
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thomasdixon wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 2:44 pm Has the US news ever reported the above?
NO, not even once
Okay.
One must wonder why?
Why must one? All global events considered, I don't think spitting ranks very high on anyone's list of newsworthy events. What would surprise me is if it did happened to be mentioned. Kind of ranks right up there with people using F-word: who cares? So in as much as there are far more important matters that require valuable print space and audio-visual time I'm pleased that I'm spared reading and hearing about such inane "spitting" incidents. Thank you US news organizations.


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From The OP:
thomasdixon wrote: Spitting on Christians, good/bad?
I reckon that's bad.

Just like it's bad to murder abortion providers.

Just like it's bad to deny homosexuals their 'inalienable' rights.

Just like it's bad to threaten folks with an eternity in Hell simply cause they think Christian notions of right and wrong are all messed up.
thomasdixon wrote: ...
You cannot find one incident where Muslims spit on Christians but you can find countless incidents where...
I can think of at least three times Muslims flew planes full of Christians into buildings full of even more Christians.
thomasdixon wrote: ...
The oppression of Christians in Israel comes mostly from Ultra-Orthodox Jews...
Maybe they just can't put em that whole World War Two behind em?
thomasdixon wrote: Has the US news ever reported the above?
NO, not even once
&
One must wonder why?
Maybe it is, they think it's just a matter of Christians complaining about persecution, while they ignore their own history of persecuting?
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Orthodox Jews spit on Christians. Has the American press ever covered the above-?

NO; the question is; why not?

While I can't speak for the media, I can sure say I don't find this news worthy in the slightest. I do find it funny; people who claim to be 'working for' the all loving deity and all they can do it get into each others' business, being hateful and rude?!?
Maybe Comedy Central should cover it? Or the 700Club (ugh what a waste of airtime)
But the media? Not necessary.
Have a great, potentially godless, day!

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thomasdixon wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 2:44 pm
You cannot find one incident where Muslims spit on Christians but you can find countless incidents where
Perhaps, but I'd say this is a bit worse than spitting:
Religious Persecution

The Syrian Christian community, one of the oldest in the world, is under attack by IS (Islamic State), as are other religious groups like Shia Muslims and Yazidis. Many Christians have been ordered to convert to Islam, pay a religious tax, or face death. There are 4,841,305 registered Syrian refugees who have fled both religious persecution at the hands of the Islamic State and the general chaos in Syria.

http://justice.crcna.org/religious-persecution-overview

Google: “spitting on Christians”
I did & I got About 365,000 results [hits] (0.49 seconds)

Orthodox Jews spit on Christians. Has the American press ever covered the above-?

NO; the question is; why not?
I did a google search on "orthodox jews spitting on christians" and the fifth listing revealed this:
"Spitting incident fuels debate on intolerance - The New York ...https://www.nytimes.com › World › Africa

Oct 19, 2004 — Spitting on Christian clergy by ultra-Orthodox Jews is a relatively common occurrence in the Old City, said Wadie Abunassar, an Israeli Arab Roman Catholic who worked for the Latin patriarch here. "Jerusalem is supposed to be a city for ecumenicism - it's supposed to be," Abunassar said."
The answer to your question is YES, the American press has covered this.


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JoeyKnothead wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 9:10 pmSpitting on Christians, good/bad? I reckon that's bad.
Reckon-?
thomasdixon wrote:...You cannot find one incident where Muslims spit on Christians but you can find countless incidents where Israelis spit on christians...
JoeyKnothead wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 9:10 pmI can think of at least three times Muslims flew planes full of Christians into buildings full of even more Christians.
I do not believe all the passengers in those planes were Christians. As if it mattered, the three (3) hijackers were insane, suicidal nuts whose families were probably being held for ransom, do this for us or your families will be shot one at a time.
thomasdixon wrote:...The oppression of Christians in Israel comes mostly from Ultra-Orthodox Jews...
JoeyKnothead wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 9:10 pmMaybe it is, they think it's just a matter of Christians complaining about persecution, while they ignore their own history of persecuting?
You lost me there old timer

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From Post 6:
thomasdixon wrote:
Joeyknothead wrote: Spitting on Christians, good/bad? I reckon that's bad.
Reckon-?
In accordance to the do unto others clause.

Ya know, like don't go denying homosexuals their rights.

Don't go around murdering abortion providers.

Ya know, stuff some Christians have done em unto others.
thomasdixon wrote:
Joeyknothead wrote: I can think of at least three times Muslims flew planes full of Christians into buildings full of even more Christians.
I do not believe all the passengers in those planes were Christians.
...
That's a fine razor, that can split such a hair.
thomasdixon wrote: As if it mattered, the three (3) hijackers were insane, suicidal nuts whose families were probably being held for ransom, do this for us or your families will be shot one at a time.
Maybe them spitters are insane, or there's someone threatening to spit on their families?
thomasdixon wrote: ...The oppression of Christians in Israel comes mostly from Ultra-Orthodox Jews...
Joeyknothead wrote: Maybe it is, they think it's just a matter of Christians complaining about persecution, while they ignore their own history of persecuting?
thomasdixon wrote: You lost me there old timer
Had you not been so busy picking cherries, maybe you wouldnt be lost, 'child'.

I'll not suffer me such a flagrantly deceitful tactic.


Y'all follow that trail of cherry stems back through the thread, and see how this'n done tried to do unto me what we all know leads us to...

The liar lies, and the preacher preaches!


That said, y'all Jews now, don't be aspitting on the Christians just cause they stuffed y'all into the ovens!

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JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 7:37 pmAre ya good now thomasdixon? Will ya get you some comfort now that I gave them Jews the what for?
I have nothing against Jews or any one else for that matter.

I get no comfort at the murder of anyone, period.

What I do get is a disgusting, revolting feeling when I read about all the innocent children murdered by the Israelis.
I will feel a great sadness and grief when the neighboring countries unite against Israel and wipe them from the face of this earth.
Yet they could still be saved if they repent, confess their sins and ask the Lord for forgiveness
Having said that, I do not believe they will and what is inevitable will be
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From Post 8:
thomasdixon wrote: I have nothing against Jews or any one else for that matter.
I get no comfort at the murder of anyone, period.
It's a good thing no Jews live in Israel, as we're about see...
thomasdixon wrote: What I do get is a disgusting, revolting feeling when I read about all the innocent children murdered by the Israelis.
Whereas I get me a disgusting, revolting feeling about all the children, and other humans murdered by anyone.
thomasdixon wrote: I will feel a great sadness and grief when the neighboring countries unite against Israel and wipe them from the face of this earth.
Anyone hear ever seen a crocodile cry?
thomasdixon wrote: Yet they could still be saved if they repent, confess their sins and ask the Lord for forgiveness
"If only them dang Jews'd just convert, and help us stuff us Christians some more Jews in the ovens!
thomasdixon wrote: Having said that, I do not believe they will and what is inevitable will be
(delete symbol of hands in prayer, because it takes saying "thanks" to make it, and my experience is it's a symbol begging God to 'go along with me here on this')
I'm assuming you hope it is, God makes Christians them better and more efficient ovens.

"I know, let's light all the Muslims on fire, and use that to barbecue us every dang Jew we can't terrorize us into becoming a Christian, cause there's so many of them dang dirty Jews, us Christians ain't got us no time to stuff em all in the ovens it is, we hope God provides."

"Ya know, what with all the raging against the homos, and all the abortion provider murders we gotta us to do unto!"


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thomasdixon wrote:Spitting on Christians, good/bad?
Neutral. I'm with Miles on this one. If you are in the majority, and you get spat on, keep walking. It's not news and no one cares or ought to care. What sort of physical harm did you suffer? None. It's just a loogie. Wipe it off. It's only as important or demeaning or gross as you make it. Realistically you're not going to get sick, and that's the only possible way it would qualify as assault.

In the specific instance that this is a part of a larger system of oppression, and the majority is spitting on the minority, then yes, it's something that ought to turn heads, because it's something that needs to stop immediately. This may well apply to the Christian minority living in Muslim countries if people start spitting on them.
thomasdixon wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 8:45 pmWhat I do get is a disgusting, revolting feeling when I read about all the innocent children murdered by the Israelis.
What I will say is that this is a case of Good Guy Syndrome (GGS). Historically Jews have always been victims, oppressed, bullied, roasted, and expelled. If a Jewish state is up to no good, as it certainly seems to be with Palestinians, nobody's going to stand up to the perpetual victims because then they feel like the bad guy. And without that pullback of correction, you can't really blame Israel for what it does. They think what they do is good, because that's all anyone ever says.

People with a lot of power can also get GGS. And I don't just mean political or military power. Take little Anthony from an episode of The Twilight Zone. He was born with amazing psychokinetic powers, and because he could annihilate people who p'd him off, nobody ever corrected him and he came down with the worst case in history of GGS. It's not his fault; this is simply what leads to the condition. There is no cure.

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