Is breaking the law a sin?

[dmart]

Under a Christian perspective is breaking the law always a sin?

For example under age drinking, smoking marijuana, and speeding.

I'd like to think not, which may or may not be from personal experience.

I know Jesus said to give unto caesar what is caesars and to give unto god what is gods, could this also be implied to all laws?

[Serpent Oracle]

Under a Christian perspective is breaking the law always a sin?

For example under age drinking, smoking marijuana, and speeding.

I'd like to think not, which may or may not be from personal experience.

I know Jesus said to give unto caesar what is caesars and to give unto god what is gods, could this also be implied to all laws?

Jesus was talking about paying your taxes, notice the contempt he has for what is Caesar's, coinage, money. Material worth.

Certainly if a sin is something against God's law then this may well directly conflict with man made law.

The Commandments say; Thou Shalt not Kill, a clear directive.

Yet many nations kill people with legal authority everyday. By execution or warfare or for whatever expediency so ordered.

They may well argue they are not killing or murdering, that they are 'eliminating' or 'punishing'. Well...are you sure, are you, are you really sure you have interpreted the law of God correctly?

Because...if you have got it wrong and God meant 'Literally don't (intend to or attempt to) actually kill each other' then you're going to have problems when you meet old St Peter at the pearly gates.

[YahDough]

Under a Christian perspective is breaking the law always a sin?

For example under age drinking, smoking marijuana, and speeding.

I'd like to think not, which may or may not be from personal experience.

I know Jesus said to give unto caesar what is caesars and to give unto god what is gods, could this also be implied to all laws?

We are supposed to obey our laws for punishment sake and/or our conscience sake.

Romans 13 is a good study about obedience to the "power".

Having doubt about our actions is probably what makes it a sin. This Bible scripture applies to food, but I think it applies to other things as well.

Rom:14:23: And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

[Serpent Oracle]

Having doubt about our actions is probably what makes it a sin. This Bible scripture applies to food, but I think it applies to other things as well.

Rom:14:23: And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

Self reflection and critical thought is a sin?

I knew I chose wisely when I chose atheism.

[Serpent Oracle]

We are supposed to obey our laws for punishment sake and/or our conscience sake.
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So what if I changed the law so that all Christians are to be summarily executed unless they abandon their faith and embrace atheism?

Are you supposed to obey that law?

Helping me round up Christians for the gallows?

Fascinating logic.

[YahDough]

We are supposed to obey our laws for punishment sake and/or our conscience sake.
.

So what if I changed the law so that all Christians are to be summarily executed unless they abandon their faith and embrace atheism?

Are you supposed to obey that law?

Helping me round up Christians for the gallows?

Fascinating logic.

Whose logic are you fascinated with, Serpent?

[YahDough]

Having doubt about our actions is probably what makes it a sin. This Bible scripture applies to food, but I think it applies to other things as well.

Rom:14:23: And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

Self reflection and critical thought is a sin?

No, Serpent, I said "doubt". Pay attention.

You say knowledge is salvation. Most everyone else says knowledge is power.
How is knowledge salvation to you?

[Serpent Oracle]

We are supposed to obey our laws for punishment sake and/or our conscience sake.
.

So what if I changed the law so that all Christians are to be summarily executed unless they abandon their faith and embrace atheism?

Are you supposed to obey that law?

Helping me round up Christians for the gallows?

Fascinating logic.

Whose logic are you fascinated with, Serpent?

I am to be fair stretching your position to its logical extreme.

It would be fascinating if you thought obeying the law was all important, which perhaps you don't.

[Serpent Oracle]

Having doubt about our actions is probably what makes it a sin. This Bible scripture applies to food, but I think it applies to other things as well.

Rom:14:23: And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

Self reflection and critical thought is a sin?

No, Serpent, I said "doubt". Pay attention.

You say knowledge is salvation. Most everyone else says knowledge is power.
How is knowledge salvation to you?

What is 'doubt' then? If it is not reflection and reasoned consideration or critical thought.

Without any knowledge what are you?

With all knowledge what are you?

[YahDough]

Having doubt about our actions is probably what makes it a sin. This Bible scripture applies to food, but I think it applies to other things as well.

Rom:14:23: And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

Self reflection and critical thought is a sin?

No, Serpent, I said "doubt". Pay attention.

You say knowledge is salvation. Most everyone else says knowledge is power.
How is knowledge salvation to you?

What is 'doubt' then? If it is not reflection and reasoned consideration or critical thought.

Doubt is when you don't know, even after relection, reason and critical thought.

Now tell me why you think knowledge is salvation?

[Serpent Oracle]

Having doubt about our actions is probably what makes it a sin. This Bible scripture applies to food, but I think it applies to other things as well.

Rom:14:23: And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

Self reflection and critical thought is a sin?

No, Serpent, I said "doubt". Pay attention.

You say knowledge is salvation. Most everyone else says knowledge is power.
How is knowledge salvation to you?

What is 'doubt' then? If it is not reflection and reasoned consideration or critical thought.

Doubt is when you don't know, even after relection, reason and critical thought.

Now tell me why you think knowledge is salvation?

Absolute certainty is never an option for the rational mind, aware of its subjective limitations and those of others.

Knowledge is so patently salvation...I am amazed I have to explain in detail.

What is knowledge?

It is information.

Information about anything imaginable.

Such as fire making or forging iron tools or making cross bows or fabricating vaccines or manufacturing fertilizers for crops...you name it, it comes from knowledge.

Map making, Legal systems, Currency, Mathematics, All the Sciences everything.

This is material salvation in the here and now...technology and progress.

True meaningful salvation for millions of people facing starvation and sickness on a daily basis.

You can pray for their immortal souls if you wish.

But real salvation, right now, comes from the power of knowledge.