Blasphemous "How-To" Book

[TwentyOneSix]

A recently published book has come to my attention and I feel it is necessary to warn my fellow Christians about literature's newest strike against religion. The author purports to make religion into a hobby that anyone can do, and goes as far as to insinuate using scrap materials out of one's garage to build pagan idols for worship! These people sit around drinking coffee and smoking cigarettes and doing lord knows what else, they put some words on paper and think they're good enough to be the lord himself! What's worse, the misguided and ignorant masses blind to the guiding light of god are buying into this filth! This book not only insults Christianity, but the entire concept of religion itself!

This is why we shouldn't teach public school children to read and write; the liberal public school system indoctrinates them into a hollywood-controlled and godless society by strictly enforcing atheism on them, and then our tax dollars teach these pitiful brainwashed kids how to commit travesties like this! If we could only limit the teaching of literacy to good, law-abiding, religious, private school children then things like this wouldn't happen.

Here's a link in case anyone doesn't believe me:

[Scotracer]

Since you believe humans are made in gods image, god must be pretty rubbish if people can be so easily led astray by virtual violence and hedonism.

Temptations are placed in our path to test our worthiness to get into heaven. Those weak souls who reject god and ignore religion because it's "too complicated" give into temptations and live lives of wicked sinfulness. The world has been cleansed in deluge and conflagration times beyond counting, it will not be long before the faithful are raptured once more and the sinful die in their muck like filthy diseased roaches.

So if these things are tests why are you against them? Surely the more tests the better?

Also, it's quite interesting you know the titles of those games, particularly the last one.

A pamphlet it handed around our church to warn parents about threats to the souls of their children. My wife and I have not been blessed with children, but I like to do my part in warning others. All of the "games" listed reward players for mass murder, acts of terrorism, and even rape which is depicted explicitly on screen. It's like pornography.

It has also been brought to my attention that the game "Mass Effect" rewards players for global genocide, as well as encouraging homosexuality and bestiality. You go from planet to planet dropping nukes and killing billions of people, while capturing women on your space ship so you can have your way with them (you can play as a female character, a lesbian). The game encourages you to commit bestiality with the alien women.

One of my neighbors was so offended by what he read that he started a petition to make the "game" illegal, my wife and I were among the first to sign it.

So you've only got other people's opinion to go on? That's terrible research and for you to make a judgement is laughable. Why don't you actually play these games and see how bad they are for yourself? Or are you scared you're not strong-willed enough to stay away from the sins they supposedly promote?

I play games often, it's one of my preferred pass-times and you know what? I have never repeated the 'sins' in games such as Grand Theft Auto or Call of Duty. I have never so much as smoked weed (yes I'm that boring) or got a speeding ticket. I am good without your god.

Maybe you should do a bit of research on the suspension of disbelief.

How do you explain the Charles Whitman case then? That happened long before video gaming...or the Olean High School shooting that happened before any "murder simulators" existed. Oh and it's interesting, isn't it, that the vast majority of these shootings have happened in US schools, which according to yourself is the greatest nation on earth.

Books are plenty guilty for warping children as well, because any godless psychopath can write. However, electronic media holds more of the blame because it's more graphic and requires you to take part in the sinfulness. Children these days also play video games more than reading, and most schools have worked out a system where children play video games instead of learning from text books. I can't say that's any better or worse than it was before, children haven't learned anything of value in public school since some satanist decided it was illegal to mention god in school.

In my school god was mentioned, but where it was appropriate: religious studies class. Of course your god was placed along-side all of the other major religions in the world as they're of equal value.

And "exposing" children to a perfectly innocent part of society is bad, how? Are you afraid they'll "turn gay" or something?

Like violence, exposing children to homosexuality will make them want to try it. And then they're gay, and their souls are damned to hell for all eternity. If that's not bad enough for you, the gay also have AIDS, which kills people all over the world. Thus, being gay is like committing murder.

More straight people have AIDS than gay people. Just look at Africa. Oh and someone having sex with a person of the same sex doesn't make them gay.

I respect women enough to let them make their own informed choices in life.

What makes you so sure that women are making their own decisions in life? Sinful women are just as programmed as sinful men. Had they been shown god's grace at the right age, they could have grown into respectable Christians. Instead of reading to their children from the bible though, most parents these days instead plop their children down in front of the TV, or worse the Xbox, and leave them to raise themselves with role models like South Park and Grand Theft Auto.

So you do have no respect for women then?

Japan is a minor nation?! Are you freakin' KIDDING me? It's an industrial powerhouse and without it your first world lifestyle just wouldn't be the same. Japan is a major power and will be for a long time to come.

Japan is an island populated by heretical demon-worshippers. They make TVs and video games, what more evidence do you need that Japan is the pathway to hell?

The US produces TVs and even more video-games than Japan. A few US-based games' developers include: Electronic Arts, Bungie Studios, Activision, BioWare (who makes Mass Effect, FYI) and many many others. The US games' market is the biggest in the world with the UK second and Japan third.

So it seems as if it's the US that's going to hell in a handbasket.

Oh and actually, the majority of Japanese people are Buddhist which is, at least in my opinion, probably the least offensive religion in the world. Far better than yours. But of course, that doesn't make me religious.

Well thanks for calling my nation, which created yours, backward.

God created the world and its nations, not men. You must have serious issues to compare the powers of your nation to those of God.

So why did your god wait so long to create the US? My country is several thousands of years old and yours is only a few hundred.

I am actually quite glad you have no children as it means we have fewer wholly deluded for the next generation.

[TwentyOneSix]

There is nowhere dark in the universe.

Acknowledging that God sees all is the first step toward living a better life, I knew I would be able to reach one of you in time.

So if these things are tests why are you against them? Surely the more tests the better?

Because many fail the tests and use what they learned to lead lives of sinful depravity. Children who learn all about drugs in public school are more likely to become junkies than children who were properly sheltered to never hear of drugs. These tests are for people with proper religious education, which many people lack in these dark times.

Why don't you actually play these games and see how bad they are for yourself?

I don't need to give money to pornographers for the sake of proving I'm right. A member of my church is a "gamer" and he's kind enough to inform the rest of us of the newest crimes against God by the game industry with his pamphlets, there's no reason for me to play them as well.

More straight people have AIDS than gay people. Just look at Africa. Oh and someone having sex with a person of the same sex doesn't make them gay.

Africa is a continent of sinners and devil-worshippers, God sent them a plague as punishment for their wicked ways.

The US produces TVs and even more video-games than Japan. A few US-based games' developers include: Electronic Arts, Bungie Studios, Activision, BioWare (who makes Mass Effect, FYI) and many many others. The US games' market is the biggest in the world with the UK second and Japan third.

Japan is responsible for inventing all of the most sinful electronics. They created the first TVs, the first video games, the first computers. Sony is a Japanese company, headed by the devil and managed by demons, with the intention of destroying God's favored nation.

Oh and actually, the majority of Japanese people are Buddhist which is, at least in my opinion, probably the least offensive religion in the world. Far better than yours. But of course, that doesn't make me religious.

"Buddha" is but one of many names of the devil.

So why did your god wait so long to create the US? My country is several thousands of years old and yours is only a few hundred.

Quite the contrary, God created America first when the world was only just made. For centuries, America was the only nation in the world, but God wanted his people to populate widely and so he pulled small insignificant pieces off of America and made them into the other nations of the world. But then, barbaric devil-worshipping red men took over the greatest nation in the world. It wasn't until brave Christian soldiers sent by god himself liberated this land from the devil's minions that it could be called America again.

I find your lack of historical knowledge unsettling.

I am actually quite glad you have no children as it means we have fewer wholly deluded for the next generation.

How dare you mock my wife's inability to conceive? I have nothing more to say to you.

[Scotracer]

So if these things are tests why are you against them? Surely the more tests the better?

Because many fail the tests and use what they learned to lead lives of sinful depravity. Children who learn all about drugs in public school are more likely to become junkies than children who were properly sheltered to never hear of drugs. These tests are for people with proper religious education, which many people lack in these dark times.

The logic, it burns.

Why don't you actually play these games and see how bad they are for yourself?

I don't need to give money to pornographers for the sake of proving I'm right. A member of my church is a "gamer" and he's kind enough to inform the rest of us of the newest crimes against God by the game industry with his pamphlets, there's no reason for me to play them as well.

You needn't actually buy them to play them, y'know. It's called 'friends'. And if you are unwilling to even prove yourself, one really must wonder the strength of your argument.

More straight people have AIDS than gay people. Just look at Africa. Oh and someone having sex with a person of the same sex doesn't make them gay.

Africa is a continent of sinners and devil-worshippers, God sent them a plague as punishment for their wicked ways.

Who are mainly Christian. Go figure.

The US produces TVs and even more video-games than Japan. A few US-based games' developers include: Electronic Arts, Bungie Studios, Activision, BioWare (who makes Mass Effect, FYI) and many many others. The US games' market is the biggest in the world with the UK second and Japan third.

Japan is responsible for inventing all of the most sinful electronics. They created the first TVs, the first video games, the first computers. Sony is a Japanese company, headed by the devil and managed by demons, with the intention of destroying God's favored nation.

The computer is a British invention. So is the TV. The first video-game was an American.

Oh and actually, the majority of Japanese people are Buddhist which is, at least in my opinion, probably the least offensive religion in the world. Far better than yours. But of course, that doesn't make me religious.

"Buddha" is but one of many names of the devil.

I see. Care to back that up?

So why did your god wait so long to create the US? My country is several thousands of years old and yours is only a few hundred.

Quite the contrary, God created America first when the world was only just made. For centuries, America was the only nation in the world, but God wanted his people to populate widely and so he pulled small insignificant pieces off of America and made them into the other nations of the world. But then, barbaric devil-worshipping red men took over the greatest nation in the world. It wasn't until brave Christian soldiers sent by god himself liberated this land from the devil's minions that it could be called America again.

I find your lack of historical knowledge unsettling.

Given the above reference to when specific electronics were developed, it is your knowledge of history that is wholly inaccurate. Your supposed 'history' cannot be backed up by any sort of historical evidence and is actually laughable. Hysterically so.

I am actually quite glad you have no children as it means we have fewer wholly deluded for the next generation.

How dare you mock my wife's inability to conceive? I have nothing more to say to you.

Even though that is a shame for someone to be infertile (I did not know of this so I do apologise for that) I do wonder how you, someone who appears to love god so would rationalise this? Your god has made your life partner infertile? What has she done to deserve that?

[LiamOS]

Acknowledging that God sees all is the first step toward living a better life, I knew I would be able to reach one of you in time.

Well, I think you're a little too late.

Einstein beat you to me, and now I can tell that your idea of God violates special relativity. Therefore, I conclude that he does not exist.

[ChaosBorders]

Japan is responsible for inventing all of the most sinful electronics. They created the first TVs, the first video games, the first computers. Sony is a Japanese company, headed by the devil and managed by demons, with the intention of destroying God's favored nation.

I think it is hilarious that your implication here is that computers are sinful...which you are making on an online debate forum...using a computer.

Africa is a continent of sinners and devil-worshippers, God sent them a plague as punishment for their wicked ways.

How dare you mock my wife's inability to conceive? I have nothing more to say to you.

Maybe God made her unable to conceive to punish you for your wicked ways...

[Mascaput]

Acknowledging that God sees all is the first step toward living a better life, I knew I would be able to reach one of you in time.

If God sees all, why didn't he stop the innocent children from being defiled by his priesthood?
Is he not omnipotent, all-powerful, all seeing? If so, then he has no sense of morality at all, as he permits evil to happen even if he could stop it.

Also, if Japan and other Electonic States of Satan are so evil, why did God not tell George W Bush and Tony Blair, two very religious men, that there were no weapons of mass destruction, and save thousands of lives? Or maybe you see that as some form of "punishment" by the evil and baleful entity you call "God"? You seem to be hung up on ideas of revenge, hate and destruction. Maybe your god is as blind as his followers? That would explain a lot, wouldn't it?

Because many fail the tests and use what they learned to lead lives of sinful depravity. Children who learn all about drugs in public school are more likely to become junkies than children who were properly sheltered to never hear of drugs. These tests are for people with proper religious education, which many people lack in these dark times.

If these times are dark, it due to the following of blind beliefs in vengeful gods and their unthinking and foolish acolytes, and not reasoned, intelligible and sane thinking.
Roman Catholics believe in Jesus' mother continuing to be a virgin after she had other children, that they are physically eating the living flesh and drinking the actual blood of a Jew who was supposed to be a god.

Muslims believe that they must kill the "Infidel" i.e. anyone who is not Muslim.

Hindus pray to a stone penis and thousands of other house-deities, just like the Catholics pray to some thousands of dead spirits that they call "saints", pay homage to stone and plaster idols and continue to attend churches where the know their priesthood have raped children. And all the evil in the world, you say, comes from electonic games, and that Buddha, a pacifist of the highest order, is the tool of your chosen king of demons?

All of this is very sick indeed, so how can you make any real case for the existence of this loving deity you pay homage to?
Have you ever taken a psychological or psychiatric evaluation ?

M

Japan is responsible for inventing all of the most sinful electronics. They created the first TVs, the first video games, the first computers. Sony is a Japanese company, headed by the devil and managed by demons, with the intention of destroying God's favored nation.

The US was the producer of the first atomic bombs, and the only one to date that used them on cities of civilians, so how do you explain that?
Also, if America is this deity's favoured nation, how come he allowed the original inhabitants, the native American Indian, to be destroyed by Christians, by murder, rape, and disease carried in their infected bodies?

"Buddha" is but one of many names of the devil.

Where does it mention Buddha in the Bible?


M

[ChaosBorders]

Muslims believe that they must kill the "Infidel" i.e. anyone who is not Muslim.

Please do not make hasty generalizations like this. Some Muslim extremists believe they must kill the Infidel. That vast majority would be perfectly happy to live with non-Muslims in peace.

[Mascaput]

Muslims believe that they must kill the "Infidel" i.e. anyone who is not Muslim.

Please do not make hasty generalizations like this. Some Muslim extremists believe they must kill the Infidel. That vast majority would be perfectly happy to live with non-Muslims in peace.

I'm not making any generalisations. I'm making a clear statement of fact. This is what their holy book, the Koran says on the matter, and it is clear an not subject to any variation or qualification. If they don't follow the Koran, then how can they be Muslims?

Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98

On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161

Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191

Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39

Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216
(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.

If you are a member of a rugby club, you don't expect to play a rugby match with tennis balls, do you? This is what they are commanded to do, so if the majority don't agree with it, then why don't they remove it from their book and correct any possible negative impetus it might give some unhinged members to commit evil?

M

[ChaosBorders]

Muslims believe that they must kill the "Infidel" i.e. anyone who is not Muslim.

Please do not make hasty generalizations like this. Some Muslim extremists believe they must kill the Infidel. That vast majority would be perfectly happy to live with non-Muslims in peace.

I'm not making any generalisations. I'm making a clear statement of fact. This is what their holy book, the Koran says on the matter, and it is clear an not subject to any variation or qualification. If they don't follow the Koran, then how can they be Muslims?

Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98

On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161

Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191

Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39

Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216
(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.

If you are a member of a rugby club, you don't expect to play a rugby match with tennis balls, do you? This is what they are commanded to do, so if the majority don't agree with it, then why don't they remove it from their book and correct any possible negative impetus it might give some unhinged members to commit evil?

M

A) If you're going by the Qu'ran it also mentions treating Jews and Christians pretty well, so you're going to have specify what qualifies as an unbeliever.
B) Saying someone isn't Muslim for ignoring more controversial parts of the Qu'ran is like saying someone isn't Christian because they don't take everything in the bible literally. Most Christians are not fundamentalists, and most Muslims are not extremists. It is not a fact that most Muslims believe they must kill the unbeliever. If that were the case, it would be impossible for any Muslim to live anywhere near a non-Muslim. Given there are churches in Muslim countries and Muslims in countries like the U.S., this is clearly mistaken.

[Mascaput]

A) If you're going by the Qu'ran it also mentions treating Jews and Christians pretty well, so you're going to have specify what qualifies as an unbeliever.
B) Saying someone isn't Muslim for ignoring more controversial parts of the Qu'ran is like saying someone isn't Christian because they don't take everything in the bible literally. Most Christians are not fundamentalists, and most Muslims are not extremists. It is not a fact that most Muslims believe they must kill the unbeliever. If that were the case, it would be impossible for any Muslim to live anywhere near a non-Muslim. Given there are churches in Muslim countries and Muslims in countries like the U.S., this is clearly mistaken.

You appear to be missing my point, which is, I don't have to specify what an "infidel" is, as it is their book. This is the central problem with all religions, their terms of reference are so vague and non-specific that they are suited to any form of interpretation. In advertising, media, product promotion, clear and unambiguous terms of reference are required, so as to avoid confusion or misleading ideas about something. Why is religion exempt? How can the Qu'ran say the things it does and not be held accountable for such open interpretation?

The same goes for the bible. On the one hand you have Jesus promoting the idea of turning the other cheek if someone hits you, but then saying that you should sell your clothes to buy a sword. Can you reconcile these inconsistencies? I don't have to, as they don't appear to have a sane meaning to me and no one can explain them. This leads some members of their respective sects to believe that they can pick and choose whatever they want.
I am not saying that all Muslims or Christians are violent, as I know that this is not so, so why don't they have the moral fibre to get rid of the contradictory statements in their manuals and codes of behaviour?

M