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Replying to post 74 by sevensealscom]
Nice I guess, but this is only the opinion of Isaiah, and one that is hardly surprising of a believer. In fact, it would be the expected claim of anyone speaking about their god, regardless of the religion
According to other scriptures not in the Bible, Isaiah was killed for his opinion about his God by being cut in half as ordered by the leadership of Judah because Isaiah had to give his hard to accept message that God was saying that the nation Judah was rebellious, see Isa.1:1-
Isa.1:1-6
1 The vision of Isaiah the son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah.
2 Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the Lord hath spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me.
3 The ox knoweth his owner, and the ass his master's crib: but Israel doth not know, my people doth not consider.
4 Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the Lord, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward.
5 Why should ye be stricken any more? ye will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint.
6 From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no soundness in it; but wounds, and bruises, and putrifying sores: they have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with ointment.
Isaiah was saying that God was saying that the rulers and nation of Judah were likened to Sodom and Gomorrah, see Isa. 1:10-14.
Isa.1:10-14
Hear the word of the Lord, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah.
11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the Lord: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.
12 When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?
13 Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.
When God sent a living prophet to speak God's word, they had nothing good to say about the nation, leadership, or the people that professed to believe in God and God's former prophets. Among these written admonitions were statements pertaining to what will happen in the end of time. The lives of the true prophets of God were cut short by being pierced through, stoned, bludgeoned, cut asunder, beheaded, crucified for giving the message of God.
The prophets were simple men who farmed or did some sort of craft for a living, until God spoke to them and sent them to the leadership of God's professed people to give God's hard to receive/hear message. Only a small group of people accepted the message of a living prophet at their peril. In the following generations, the new leadership would accept the writings of the dead prophets as being God's word, even though their fore fathers had the prophets and most of their followers rejected, rebuked, chastised and killed.
What I'm getting at is, Why would simple men making a living come out of nowhere and suddenly put their life in peril by telling the king, high priest and priests and their nation that God basically has nothing good to say about them and that God thinks they are all (to paraphrase) full of shit?
Not what you would expect of prophets/people to give a hard to accept message/rebuke who are not really speaking God's word but making it up or think they are hearing God's word. The false prophets are easier to spot, because these people's false message speak good/smooth easy to accept messages about the leadership, nation and people, see 1Kings 19:10; 22:13-28.
1Kings 19:10
And he (Elijah) said, I have been very jealous for the Lord God of hosts: for the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away, see 1Kings 22:13-28
1Kings 22:13-28
13 And the messenger that was gone to call Micaiah spake unto him, saying, Behold now, the words of the (false) prophets declare good unto the king with one mouth: let thy word, I pray thee, be like the word of one of them, and speak that which is good.
14 And Micaiah said, As the Lord liveth, what the Lord saith unto me, that will I speak.
15 So he came to the king. And the king said unto him, Micaiah, shall we go against Ramothgilead to battle, or shall we forbear? And he answered him, Go, and prosper: for the Lord shall deliver it into the hand of the king.
16 And the king said unto him, How many times shall I adjure thee that thou tell me nothing but that which is true in the name of the Lord?
17 And he said, I saw all Israel scattered upon the hills, as sheep that have not a shepherd: and the Lord said, These have no master: let them return every man to his house in peace.
18 And the king of Israel said unto Jehoshaphat, Did I not tell thee that he would prophesy no good concerning me, but evil?
19 And he said, Hear thou therefore the word of the Lord: I saw the Lord sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left.
20 And the Lord said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner.
21 And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the Lord, and said, I will persuade him.
22 And the Lord said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.
23 Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee.
24 But Zedekiah the son of Chenaanah went near, and smote Micaiah on the cheek, and said, Which way went the Spirit of the Lord from me to speak unto thee?
25 And Micaiah said, Behold, thou shalt see in that day, when thou shalt go into an inner chamber to hide thyself.
26 And the king of Israel said, Take Micaiah, and carry him back unto Amon the governor of the city, and to Joash the king's son;
27 And say, Thus saith the king, Put this fellow in the prison, and feed him with bread of affliction and with water of affliction, until I come in peace.
28 And Micaiah said, If thou return at all in peace, the Lord hath not spoken by me...
Just because the true prophets wrote of future events as instructed by God with a Thus Saith God doesn't mean the prophets, including Jesus, had any idea what the prophecies meant, see Dan.12:8-10.
Dan.12:8-10
And I (Daniel) heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
9 And he (Gabriel) said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words (written in the Book of Daniel) are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried (when the latter day living messenger unseals the mysteriously written prophecies relating to how and when the world ends); but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand (since you and many others like you, including Christians, that don't truly understand are here being labeled as wicked); but the wise (being wicked people who become wise by accepting the latter day messenger's message) shall understand.
There is a verse in the Book of revelation that states that only the one latter day living person who has the wisdom to understand can count the number of the beast/kingdom. The beast's number is the number six because it is the sixth kingdom. However the number six is written three times as 666. After counting the number/numeral six(6), the answer is three. The reason is that the number six kingdom in the latter days reigns three separate times as the sixth kingdom, seventh kingdom, and eighth kingdom. But since its the same kingdom, it reigns three separate times as the number six kingdom, and again as the number six kingdom and yet again as the number six kingdom, see Rev.13:18; 17:10,11.
Rev.13:18
Here is wisdom. Let him (latter day messenger) that hath understanding count (count how many numerals) the number (being the number/numeral six) of the beast (union of nations): for it is the number of a man (being the false prophet that represents/personifies the world's leading nation/USA); and his number is Six hundred threescore and six/666 (there are three numbers/numerals of six to count).
Rev.17:10,11
10 And there are seven kings (being kingdoms): five are fallen, and one is (being the number six kingdom/beast), and the other (number seven kingdom) is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
11 And the beast (kingdom/union of nations) that was (united in agreement to fulfill the USA's vision for the world's future on non-complying nations)), and is not (nations no longer united in agreement), even he is the eighth (number eight kingdom/beast), and is of the seven (of the number seven beast/kingdom), and goeth into perdition (ends up destroyed).
Only those wicked people that see this interpretation as true become wise.
