Fatwa okaying adult breast-feeding.

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Fatwa okaying adult breast-feeding.

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This was a hidden practise in Islam, only few know about the hadiths allowing that, but now those clerics and an Egyptian Alazhar cleric made them known publicly for everyone, and that have created a big dilemma in Saudi Arabia, and caused more sexual harassments in the streets.

Actually I will not be blaming those clerics because they based their Fatwa on authentic hadiths, but I will blame their teacher who embedded sex in every aspect of Muslim life.

Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3424:
A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Sahla bint Suhail came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and said: Messenger of Allah, I see on the face of Abu Hudhaifa (signs of disgust) on entering of Salim (who is an ally) into (our house), whereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: Suckle him. She said: How can I suckle him as he is a grown-up man? Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) smiled and said: I already know that he is a young man 'Amr has made this addition in his narration that he participated in the Battle of Badr and in the narration of Ibn 'Umar (the words are): Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) laughed.

Arabic Version:

صحيح مسلم:
جاءت � �سهلة بنت سهيل � �إلى النبي � �صلى الله عليه وسلم � ��قالت يا رسول الله إني أرى �ي وجه � �أبي حذي�ة � �من دخول � �سالم � �وهو حلي�ه �قال النبي � �صلى الله عليه وسلم � �أرضعيه قالت وكي� أرضعه وهو رجل كبير �تبسم رسول الله � �صلى الله عليه وسلم � �وقال قد علمت أنه رجل كبير � �زاد � �عمرو � ��ي حديثه وكان قد شهد بدرا � �و�ي رواية � �ابن أبي عمر � ��ضحك رسول الله � �صلى الله عليه وسلم �



English Link: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2010/06 ... ng_is.html


This is just horrible, sick, perverted and illogical! Btw, do these mullah have lost their mind and accept everything written back 1400 years ago?

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Book 008, Number 3425:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Salim, the freed slave of Abu Hadhaifa, lived with him and his family in their house. She (i. e. the daughter of Suhail came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and said: Salim has attained (puberty) as men attain, and he understands what they understand, and he enters our house freely, I, however, perceive that something (rankles) in the heart of Abu Hudhaifa, whereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said to her: Suckle him and you would become unlawful for him, and (the rankling) which Abu Hudhaifa feels in his heart will disappear. She returned and said: So I suckled him, and what (was there) in the heart of Abu Hudhaifa disappeared.

Book 008, Number 3426:
Ibn Abu Mulaika reported that al-Qasim b. Muhammad b. Abu Bakr had narrated to him that 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Sahla bint Suhail b. 'Amr came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and said: Messenger of Allah, Salim (the freed slave of Abu Hudhaifa) is living with us in our house, and he has attained (puberty) as men attain it and has acquired knowledge (of the sex problems) as men acquire, whereupon he said: Suckle him so that he may become unlawful (in regard to marriage) for you He (Ibn Abu Mulaika) said: I refrained from (narrating this hadith) for a year or so on account of fear. I then met al-Qasim and said to him: You narrated to me a hadith which I did not narrate (to anyone) afterwards. He said: What is that? I informed him, whereupon he said: Narrate it on my authority that 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) had narrated that to me.

Book 008, Number 3427:
Umm Salama said to 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her): A young boy who is at the threshold of puberty comes to you. I, however, do not like that he should come to me, whereupon 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) said: Don't you see in Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) a model for you? She also said: The wife of Abu Hudhaifa said: Messenger of Allah, Salim comes to me and now he is a (grown-up) person, and there is something that (rankles) in the mind of Abu Hudhaifa about him, whereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Suckle him (so that he may become your foster-child), and thus he may be able to come to you (freely).

Book 008, Number 3428:
Zainab daughter of Abu Salama reported: I heard Umm Salama, the wife of Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him, saying to 'A'isha: By Allah, I do not like to be seen by a young boy who has passed the period of fosterage, whereupon she ('A'isha) said: Why is it so? Sahla daughter of Suhail came to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and said: Allah's Messenger, I swear by Allah that I see in the face of Abu Hudhaifa (the signs of disgust) on account of entering of Salim (in the house), whereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Suckle him. She (Sahla bint Suhail) said: He has a heard. But he (again) said: Suckle him, and it would remove what is there (expression of disgust) on the face of Abu Hudhaifa. She said: (I did that) and, by Allah, I did not see (any sign of disgust) on the face of Abu Hadhaifa.
The Prophet was protecting a mixed up society from fornication.
When the young boy suckled from Sahla bint Suhail, she became his foster mother. Her daughters (if she had any) would become prohibited for him for marriage, because they became his foster sisters:
"Prohibited to you (For marriage) are:- Your mothers, daughters, sisters; father's sisters, Mother's sisters; brother's daughters, sister's daughters; foster-mothers (Who gave you suck), foster-sisters; your wives' mothers; your step-daughters under your guardianship, born of your wives to whom ye have gone in,- no prohibition if ye have not gone in;- (Those who have been) wives of your sons proceeding from your loins; and two sisters in wedlock at one and the same time, except for what is past; for God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful;- (The Noble Quran, 4:23)"
So, Salim was a YOUNG BOY who was granted a foster mother through breast feeding after he was freed from slavery.

He WAS NOT a grown up man whom the Prophet wanted for him to have sexual relationship with Sahla as it was mistranslated in only ONE English-translated narration and contradicted in the several other English-translated narrations.
Joshua Patrick wrote: This is just horrible, sick, perverted and illogical! Btw, do these mullah have lost their mind and accept everything written back 1400 years ago?
Thats the thing about you Joshua; you are a bloody hypocrite. You always copy/paste from the most anti-islamic website: www.answering-islam.com ; just to attack Islam in any way you can.

Not only is the Quran far more authentic than the bible in many aspects;(e.g. documenting its compilation); you fail to see the pornographic material that is in your bible.
"If only you were to me like a brother, who was nursed at my mother's breasts! Then, if I found you outside, I would kiss you, and no one would despise me. I would lead you and bring you to my mother's house-- she who has taught me. I would give you spiced wine to drink [i.e., her vagina's semen!], the nectar of my pomegranates. His left arm is under my head and his right arm embraces me."
(Song of Songs 8:1-3)

"How beautiful your sandaled feet, O prince's daughter! Your graceful legs are like jewels, the work of a craftsman's hands. Your navel is a rounded goblet that never lacks blended wine. Your waist is a mound of wheat encircled by lilies. Your breasts are like two fawns, twins of a gazelle. Your neck is like an ivory tower. Your eyes are the pools of Heshbon by the gate of Bath Rabbi.
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I said 'I will climb the palm tree; I will take hold of its fruit.' May your breasts be like the clusters of the vine, the fragrance of your breath like apples, and your mouth like the best wine. (Bible 7:1-4, 8-9)"
In your own words; if you fail to accept something that was written 1400 years ago; how the hell do you accept something that was written around 2000 years ago?
Do the people think that they will be left to say, "We believe" without being put to the test?
We have tested those before them, for GOD must distinguish those who are truthful, and He must expose the liars.

(Quran 29:2-3)

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Murad wrote:[Not only is the Quran far more authentic than the bible in many aspects;(e.g. documenting its compilation); you fail to see the pornographic material that is in your bible.
How do you firgure the Quran is more authentic than the Bible? You quote the songs of Solomon to show that the Bible is pornographic. The irony of that is Muslims use the Song of Solomon to confirm that Muhammad is Mentioned as a prophet in there. They use what you consider to be the pornographic section of the Bible to confirm him a prophet and you accuse Patrick of Hypocrisy

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