my religiophilosphic view

[jaysus]

so, i wondered recently am i agnostic, gnostic, apatheist, deist, athiest or what ?

is there a selection chart like a branch chart till you get what you are ?

okay, so there could be god or gods but i don't see any evidence, and which one to choose out of the thousands anyway ?

evolution, sure, sounds better than a narrow window, monotheistic, legend of creation

science makes sense, holy books make no sense at all.

[jaysus]

maybe a blend of humanist / provisional agnostic / deist ?

[LiamOS]

Hop over to Wikipedia/a dictionary site and look at the definitions of those positions. If you fit the definitions, those labels are applicable to you.

There's even a change you could be an agnostic, atheistic, apatheistic deist... Who knows?

[Fuzzy Dunlop]

okay, so there could be god or gods but i don't see any evidence, and which one to choose out of the thousands anyway?

Do you currently believe in any of these potential gods? If not, you might consider yourself an agnostic atheist. You don't currently believe in gods but you also don't rule out the possibility that gods could exist.

[jaysus]

okay, so there could be god or gods but i don't see any evidence, and which one to choose out of the thousands anyway?

Do you currently believe in any of these potential gods? If not, you might consider yourself an agnostic atheist. You don't currently believe in gods but you also don't rule out the possibility that gods could exist.

well I don't rule out potentially a sort of god or gods whatever that is, could exist of course thats a reasonable and open approach, but I could not without evidence say no god can possibly exist

i rule out the bible based religious gods mostly of a sort of human invention, most of these types of gods seem implausible and manufactured by imagination

[jaysus]

for about 30 odd years I have been open to the ideology of either dogmatic agnosticism or provisional agnosticism

i was never too keen on the dogmatic approach, ignoring all debate and ideological stances to settle on maybe there is a god but who knows

i was more warmed by the approach of reviewing all options and then deciding on there may be a god but who knows

still I am open to the various positions, and I would like to hear from more humanists and deists

also those that don't believe in "god" per se but don't rank themselves amongst athiests, and theists that do not accept the conventional gods

also gnostics, what do they generally think ?

[jaysus]

oh, and the apatheistic deists ! not to forget them whatever they are about

[ndf8th]

Yes I kind of see the dilemma? Theists wants us to decide on God.

Give your life in the hand of Jesus our Lord and he will give you eternal life.
Atheists say: "There are only two options you are either theist or atheist"

So both these groups live the dichotomy choice you have only two options.

theists and atheists seems to agree on that gods are either existing or not?

A pragmatic person maybe would ask. What are they supposed to fill for function
in our lives regardless of if they exists or not.

The practical answer seems to be that even a totally absolutely non-existent God
fill the same function effectively as long as the believer have the faith but
fail to function when the believer get aware of that there really is no evidence
and that they care about that lack of evidence so their doubt make God fail.

God is like a Placebo Treatment. As longs as the Doctor can make it reasonable
that it is a proven treatment and the patient trust in the effectiveness of it
then it works for some minutes or hours or days then it fail and you need
to do the treatment again.

And that is true for some theists too they need to go to church and renew their faith.

So my take on belief in God is more like a political spin or a trust in a treatment.

[McCulloch]

[Replying to post 1 by jaysus]

Can you answer the question, "What do you mean when you use the word god?" Is your answer unambiguous, coherent and consistent?

If your answer to either question is no, then might I suggest that you are ignostic?

[ndf8th]

Will be interesting to read what Jaysus answer.

My answer is that each religious tradition and all their varieties
have each their own individual description of what their God is.

But many of them agree on some features.

1. A dead god is of no use to them. So God has to be alive and existing.
2. Creator of the Universe and doing it intentionally? Maybe governing it?
3. Being supernatural and able to let the believer live after the death.

There are exceptions but does not most believers want their God to be like that?