The Problem with Christian and Muslim Fundamentalists

[jessehove]

Here is the similar problem with Christian and Muslim Fundamentalists as I see it:

http://mercyandmessiah.blogspot.ca/2013 ... lists.html

P.S. Notice I am using a specific definition of what Fundamentalism from a historical modern definition in Christianity and Islam respectively.

[HaLi8993]

@ Jessehove

As for Sayyid Qutub – may Allah have mercy on him, in some of his books there is that which makes the researcher think that he may have been somewhat over zealous in the way in which he explained Islam to people. Perhaps his excuse for doing so may be that he was writing in a literary style. With regard to some matters of fiqh (jurisprudence), such as when he spoke about workers in his book al-‘Adaalah al-Ijtimaa’iyyah (Social Justice), he started to write about Tawheed, and with phrases all of which are strongly worded and instill in the hearts of believers confidence in their religion and faith. In that sense he did indeed renew the call of Islam in the hearts of the youth. Even if we feel sometimes that he said some things which indicate that he did not have the time to examine thoroughly some of the issues that he wrote about. None the less there have been a 
few thinkers that have had such an influence on the contemporary Islamic thought as  Sayyid Qutb. Since his execution in 1964 in Cairo, his death became the perfect illustration of one of the processes through which a human being becomes part of the revolutionary movement aimed at changing the world and bringing in a new ethical moral order based on freedom, brotherhood, and justice for all. Islam stands for change. It seeks to change the individual and the society. This change covers every aspect of human life, form personal morality to business economics and politics. It is only natural that Islam should be fought by those who want to keep the status quo. This is the way it has always been throughout history, Adam to Nuh, Ibrahrim, Musa, Isa, and Muahmmad (peace be upon them). It will happen to anyone who wants to stand up and proclaim the true message of Islam to the world. Just something to think about.

[Iam]

@ Jessehove

As for Sayyid Qutub – may Allah have mercy on him, in some of his books there is that which makes the researcher think that he may have been somewhat over zealous in the way in which he explained Islam to people. Perhaps his excuse for doing so may be that he was writing in a literary style. With regard to some matters of fiqh (jurisprudence), such as when he spoke about workers in his book al-‘Adaalah al-Ijtimaa’iyyah (Social Justice), he started to write about Tawheed, and with phrases all of which are strongly worded and instill in the hearts of believers confidence in their religion and faith. In that sense he did indeed renew the call of Islam in the hearts of the youth. Even if we feel sometimes that he said some things which indicate that he did not have the time to examine thoroughly some of the issues that he wrote about. None the less there have been a 
few thinkers that have had such an influence on the contemporary Islamic thought as  Sayyid Qutb. Since his execution in 1964 in Cairo, his death became the perfect illustration of one of the processes through which a human being becomes part of the revolutionary movement aimed at changing the world and bringing in a new ethical moral order based on freedom, brotherhood, and justice for all. Islam stands for change. It seeks to change the individual and the society. This change covers every aspect of human life, form personal morality to business economics and politics. It is only natural that Islam should be fought by those who want to keep the status quo. This is the way it has always been throughout history, Adam to Nuh, Ibrahrim, Musa, Isa, and Muahmmad (peace be upon them). It will happen to anyone who wants to stand up and proclaim the true message of Islam to the world. Just something to think about.

Who was fighting against Adam?

[HaLi8993]

@ Iam

Who was fighting against Adam?

Satan

[Iam]

@ Iam

Who was fighting against Adam?

Satan

Did he have his army?
Did Adam have his army?
Do you have some record of these battles, or are you making things up?

[HaLi8993]

@ Iam

Did he have his army? 
Did Adam have his army? 
Do you have some record of these battles, or are you making things up?

Don't recall saying anything about an army or any battles. 

[Iam]

@ Iam

Did he have his army? 
Did Adam have his army? 
Do you have some record of these battles, or are you making things up?

Don't recall saying anything about an army or any battles. 

So Adam was fighting satan but they didn't have any fights?

[HaLi8993]

@ Iam

So Adam was fighting satan but they didn't have any fights?

We are constantly fighting Satan on a daily basis, as he is the one that whispers to mankind evil and guides people astray, we fight Satan by not listening to him and protecting ourselves from him by obeying God instead of him.This is not a physical fight. Satan declared his evil and his enmity towards the children of Adam, so he started to make sin attractive to them and to tempt them with unlawful and evil things, and to enjoin evil and immoral actions upon them. Thus most of the people are and were deceived by him and they fell into those sins and unlawful things: 

“And indeed Iblees (Satan) did prove true his thought about them, and they followed him, all except a group of true believers (in the Oneness of Allaah)�

(Quran- Saba - 34:20)

Everything that happens among the sons of Adam of disbelief, murder, enmity, hatred, the spread of immorality such as adultery/fornication, the wanton display of women’s beauty, drinking alcohol, worshipping idols and other major sins, is all the work of the Satan, in order to prevent people from following the way of God and to corrupt mankind and drag them to the Fire of Hell with him.

[Iam]

@ Iam

So Adam was fighting satan but they didn't have any fights?

We are constantly fighting Satan on a daily basis, as he is the one that whispers to mankind evil and guides people astray, we fight Satan by not listening to him and protecting ourselves from him by obeying God instead of him.This is not a physical fight. Satan declared his evil and his enmity towards the children of Adam, so he started to make sin attractive to them and to tempt them with unlawful and evil things, and to enjoin evil and immoral actions upon them. Thus most of the people are and were deceived by him and they fell into those sins and unlawful things: 

“And indeed Iblees (Satan) did prove true his thought about them, and they followed him, all except a group of true believers (in the Oneness of Allaah)�

(Quran- Saba - 34:20)

Everything that happens among the sons of Adam of disbelief, murder, enmity, hatred, the spread of immorality such as adultery/fornication, the wanton display of women’s beauty, drinking alcohol, worshipping idols and other major sins, is all the work of the Satan, in order to prevent people from following the way of God and to corrupt mankind and drag them to the Fire of Hell with him.

It is only natural that Islam should be fought by those who want to keep the status quo. This is the way it has always been throughout history, Adam to Nuh, Ibrahrim, Musa, Isa, and Muahmmad

I see you've had a drastic change in the story you are telling, but that is only natural. When intelligent questions are asked about your dogma you have no answers and so change the subject, when the new subject is questioned you change the subject again. Oh Well

[HaLi8993]

@ Iam

I see you've had a drastic change in the story you are telling, but that is only natural. When intelligent questions are asked about your dogma you have no answers and so change the subject, when the new subject is questioned you change the subject again. Oh Well

Nice Try!!! What is the drastic change??? I have answered your questions and Islam has all the answers, unfortunately you have failed to grasp it. Don't worry I'm used to people resorting to accusations and character assassination attempts  when they have nothing else left to say.