Hell's Immigrants

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According to Jesus Christ's testimony as a credible expert witness in all matters pertaining to the afterlife; most of the world's responsible souls haven't been making it to safety when they cross over to the other side.

• Luke 13:22-24 . . And he went through the cities and villages, teaching, and journeying toward Jerusalem. Then said one unto him, master, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them: Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

• Matt 7:13-14 . . Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

• Matt 22:14 . . For many are called, but few are chosen.

Webster's defines "many" as consisting of, or amounting to, a large but indefinite number; while "few" is defined as consisting of, or amounting to, only a small number; viz: relative to many then, few is the lesser. Bear with me while I flesh this out.

According to the US Census Bureau: as of Sept 18, 2017 @ 11:36 pm New York Time, the resident population in the United States was approximately 325,908,667 with a death rate of approximately one every 12 seconds; which translates to an average of 7,200 American deaths of all ages, races, and genders during just one 24-hour calendar day.

According to 2009 US Census data; roughly 27.3% of America's daily deaths are under the age of 19, which would indicate that approximately 5,234 of the current daily death rate per 24 hours are adults.

Giving the "many" the benefit of the doubt by limiting their maximum percentage to 51%, would indicate a minimum of 2,670 American adults transferring to perdition every day: which translates to roughly 111 per hour.

That's a very conservative estimate as Christ didn't really specify exact percentages to represent the quantities of "few" and "many". But just think: by the time CBS completes its half hour evening news report, a bare-bones minimum of 55 Americans become new arrivals in the fiery sector of the netherworld.

Using the ratio of 2,670 condemned souls per 325,908,667 population: computing the number of condemned souls worldwide from a currently estimated global population of 7,422,223,068 people, would suggest something like 60,806 new arrivals in the fiery sector of the netherworld every 24 hours; which translates to approximately 2,534 souls every sixty minutes on the clock.

That rate would fill the 51,800 seats of the new Yankee Stadium to capacity in roughly 20 hours and 44 minutes. In other words: if the world's daily number of condemned souls started filing into the stadium at 06:00 am this morning, then by 02:44 am tomorrow, the stadium would be full to capacity.

Christmas and New Year are even worse. A study done of 26 years of death certificates shows that coronary fatalities are, on average, 11.9% higher on those days than any other days of the year; with non-heart deaths spiking to 12.2% higher.

Christianity's hell never closes; no, not at all: it's open for business 24/7/365 nonstop and indifferent to global warming, Wall Street crashes, massive layoffs, outsourcing, high school shootings, terrorism, tsunamis, earthquakes, hurricanes, storm surges, nuclear meltdowns, air, water, and soil pollution, a mission to Mars, freeway pile-ups, brown-outs, threatened species, the price of oil, student debt, GMO, trade deficits, protests, Federal debt, factory recalls, outsourcing, overpopulation, desertification, genocides, revolutions, civil wars, acid rain, road rage, oil spills, conscious decoupling, ISIS, LGBT marriage, Obamacare, blood diamonds, fracking, twerking, and/or President Donald Trump's tweets.

If Christianity's perception of Jesus Christ and the hereafter is correct; then it's apparent that souls never stop cascading into the abyss in an endless procession like the unbelievable millions of poultry broilers passing annually through Tyson chicken-processing plants on their way to Wendy's, McDonalds, Carl's Junior, Jack in the Box, Burger King, Chic-fil-A, KFC, A&W, Arby's, Dairy Queen, Taco Bell, et al; and to supermarkets and restaurants all over the USA and wherever else Tyson vends its meats. The slaughtering and the butchering never stop.
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Creeping up the blind side, shinning up the wall,
stealing through the dark of the night.
Climbing through a window, stepping to the floor
checking to the left and the right.
Picking up the pieces, putting them away;
something doesn't feel quite right.

Help me someone, let me out of here.
Then out of the dark was suddenly heard:
Welcome to the Home by the Sea

Coming out the woodwork, through the open door,
pushing from above and below.
Shadows with no substance, in the shape of men;
round and down and sideways they go.
Adrift without direction, eyes that hold despair
then as one they sigh and they moan:

Help us someone, let us out of here.
Living here so long undisturbed,
dreaming of the time we were free
so many years ago
before the time when we first heard:
Welcome to the Home by the Sea

Sit down . . Sit down
As we relive our lives in what we tell you

Images of sorrow, pictures of delight
things that go to make up a life.
Endless days of summer, longer nights of gloom
waiting for the morning light.
Scenes of unimportance, photos in a frame
things that go to make up a life.

Sit down . . Sit down
Cause you won't get away,
no; with us you will stay
for the rest of your days.
So sit down as we relive our lives in what we tell you.
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Home By The Sea
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[font=Verdana]The lyrics of that song are so sad because it depicts how the only thing people have to do down in the netherworld to help pass the time is tell each other about their previous lives. There is, of course, nothing to tell about their lives in hades since the colloquialism "get a life" is a non sequitur in that place. Nobody has a life down there; nor any hope of getting one.

â—� Ecc 9:10 . . Whatever your hand finds to do, verily, do it with all your might; for there is no activity or planning or knowledge or wisdom in sheol where you are going.[/font]

[font=Times New Roman]Immigration Update[/font][font=verdana]: 19 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 1,155,314 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 18, 2017.

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the only thing people have to do down in the netherworld to help pass the time is tell each other about their previous lives

That is the one (1) thing that ever person in humanity are going to have to carry each of us through eternity in the Kingdom of God - the stories of our previous evil and sinful lives here on earth.

We all are sinners as we all fall short and so every persons gets the exact same salvation.

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â—� 2Ths 2:11-12 . . God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

In other words: there's coming a time when God's patience will reach its reasonable limits, and He will purposely, willfully, and deliberately make sure that a certain category of people have no chance whatsoever to be spared the wrath of God.

Back when Noah was preparing the ark, no doubt his neighbors all mocked and poked fun at him like one of those deranged souls that go around with a sandwich board that reads: Repent; The End Is Near! But when the rain started, I bet those very same neighbors panicked and tried to get Noah to open up and let them in. But even had Noah wanted to; he couldn't. The hatch of the ark was sealed from the outside: and God was the only one on earth who could open it-- He chose not to.

â—� Rev 1:18 . . I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death.

â—� Rev 3:7 . .These are the words of him who is holy and true: who holds the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open.

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â—� 2Ths 2:11-12 . . God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

In other words: there's coming a time when God's patience will reach its reasonable limits, and He will purposely, willfully, and deliberately make sure that a certain category of people have no chance whatsoever to be spared the wrath of God.

God does not have any such limits - the love of God is eternal.

And Jesus paid the price in full - so yes everyone will be spared through Jesus Christ.

The strong delusion and the lie is that our loving Father would not save any sinner - because the truth is that not even one (1) sinner will get lost or left out.

â—� Rev 1:18 . . I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death.

â—� Rev 3:7 . .These are the words of him who is holy and true: who holds the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open.

Having the "keys" means that God and Jesus frees the prisoners of sin and sets them free unto salvation.

Every person gets saved - and not even one sinful sheep gets lost or left out. FYI.

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â—� Acts 2:31 . . his soul was not left in hell

The Greek word for "hell" in that verse is haides (hah'-dace) which essentially means unseen; i.e. the netherworld.

Haides (a.k.a. hades) is borrowed from Greek mythology. It refers to the afterlife situation of all the dead, both the good dead and the bad dead, regardless of age and gender.

Hades is divided into sections where the souls of the dead are assigned in accordance with the quality of their pre-death existence. The worst section is a deep abyss called Tartarus; which is utilized in the New Testament at 2Pet 2:4.

According to Luke 23:43, the section of hades in which Christ reposed for three days and nights is paradise.[/font]

[font=Georgia]NOTE[/font][font=Verdana]: There is only one McDonald's, but more than one location. The same goes for paradise. There's a location down in the netherworld (Matt 12:40), a celestial location in the third heaven (2Cor 12:2-4), and yet another location called the paradise of God. (Rev 2:7)

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â—� Acts 2:31 . . his soul was not left in hell

The Greek word for "hell" in that verse is haides (hah'-dace) which essentially means unseen; i.e. the netherworld.

Haides (a.k.a. hades) is borrowed from Greek mythology. It refers to the afterlife situation of all the dead, both the good dead and the bad dead, regardless of age and gender.

Hades is divided into sections where the souls of the dead are assigned in accordance with the quality of their pre-death existence. The worst section is a deep abyss called Tartarus; which is utilized in the New Testament at 2Pet 2:4.

According to Luke 23:43, the section of hades in which Christ reposed for three days and nights is paradise.

NOTE There is only one McDonald's, but more than one location. The same goes for paradise. There's a location down in the netherworld (Matt 12:40), a celestial location in the third heaven (2Cor 12:2-4), and yet another location called the paradise of God. (Rev 2:7)

All of that is based on the old Greek religion.

I like lots of aspects of the old Greek religion - but Jesus did not preach the Greek religion.

The concept of "Hades" is totally Greek, and mainstream Christianity accepted their doctrine of Hell from the Greeks, but Jesus Christ did not preach Greek.

The Hades is a Greek doctrine - it is not a doctrine of Christ.

And Tartarus too is just more Greek mythology - link HERE.

So you are not really a Christian at all - you are preaching the Greek religion.

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[font=Georgia]Jesus Christ did not preach Greek[/font]

[font=Verdana]Nor did Christ preach English, German, Irish, Swahili, or French.

Personally I think it's safe to trust that the words and grammar of the New Testament's koiné Greek are the equivalent of whatever words and grammar that Jesus preached in the Palestine of his day.

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[JP Cusick]

Jesus Christ did not preach Greek

Nor did Christ preach English, German, Irish, Swahili, or French.

Personally I think it's safe to trust that the words and grammar of the New Testament's koiné Greek are the equivalent of whatever words and grammar that Jesus preached in the Palestine of his day.

To use the old Greek language is not the same as you using the old Greek religion to define Christianity.

The word "Hades" in the Greek language means the gave, as being the place where dead bodies are buried, but in the old Greek religion then "Hades" means a place where the Greek God tortures the evildoers.

You are correct as you preach your Greek religious doctrines - but it is not correct for Christianity.

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A forgiven sinner is still sinful, and they'll go right on sinning same as before they were forgiven unless they undergo a re-design because human nature is intrinsically bad.

â—� Gen 6:5 . .Yhvh saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time.

â—� Gen 8:21 . . Man's thoughts and actions are bent toward evil from childhood.

â—� Jer 13:23 . . Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard its spots? Then may you also do good who are accustomed to do evil.

â—� Eph 2:3 . .We were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.[/font]

[font=Times New Roman]Immigration Update[/font][font=verdana]: 22 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 1,337,732 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 18, 2017.

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A forgiven sinner is still sinful, and they'll go right on sinning same as before they were forgiven unless they undergo a re-design because human nature is intrinsically bad.

â—� Gen 6:5 . .Yhvh saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time.

â—� Gen 8:21 . . Man's thoughts and actions are bent toward evil from childhood.

â—� Jer 13:23 . . Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard its spots? Then may you also do good who are accustomed to do evil.

â—� Eph 2:3 . .We were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

This is true for every person = we are all sinners - including you and I and everyone.

So you are not going to Heaven while others are going to Hell - because you too are a sinner just are the rest of us.

What the Bible really says is that in Hell our sins are burned away while we people get saved, and so every person goes to the Hell as we all get saved, see it said clearly right here = 1 Corinthians 3:15-16

We all need to recognize that our Heavenly Father is the God of love and forgiveness, so everyone gets saved.