We are not made of dust. We are made of star dust.

[Compassionist]

The Bible says in Genesis 3:19 (New International Version):

"By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return."

We are made of atoms made inside stars. We are not made of dust. We are made of star dust. We are all star dust. Please see https://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/accounts.html

"Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me." - The Bible (New International Version). We are not born sinners as the Bible claims. We are born sufferers. Without our consent and without any fault of our own, we are conceived and born into a life full of suffering and unfairness. Without consent, we suffer. Without consent, we die. We are victims of causality, we are prisoners of causality. We are not free to do what we want. If I were free to do what I want, I would have gone back in time and prevented all suffering and unfairness and death. I would have made everyone omnibenevolent, omniscient and omnipotent and the owner of an infinite number of universes each. Sadly, I am not free and neither are you. Doomed we are, to be conceived. Doomed we are, to suffer. Doomed we are, to die. "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." - The Bible (New International Version). If this Biblical claim were true, people would become death-proof on converting to Christianity. Sadly, Christians die, just like non-Christians die. Clearly, faith in Christ does not make one immune to death. Only suffering and death and guaranteed in life for a sentient organism such as humans.

Astronomy, biology, geology and philosophy prove the Bible to be false and unethical. Please see and http://www.evilbible.com and http://skepticsannotatedbible.com

We should live and help live, live and love. We should help all, harm none. We should all be pacifist vegans. Thank you.

[Willum]

[Replying to post 1 by Compassionist]

Yes, sin is a transgression against (an imaginary) God.
Only religious-Jews and Christians sin, and are born in sin.
The rest of us are awesome.

Such a cool concept you present to us.
Except for veganism.

It isn't for everyone. It made the Dali Lama ill, so it can't be the one true path.

[tam]

Peace to you,

[Replying to post 1 by Compassionist]

The Bible says in Genesis 3:19 (New International Version):

"By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return."

We are made of atoms made inside stars. We are not made of dust. We are made of star dust. We are all star dust.

Star dust is still dust.

The earth is made of that same dust as well.

During a supernova, when a massive star explodes at the end of its life, the resulting high energy environment enables the creation of some of the heaviest elements including iron and nickel. The explosion also disperses the different elements across the universe, scattering the stardust which now makes up planets including Earth.

http://www.physics.org/article-questions.asp?id=52

Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

[Willum]

[Replying to post 3 by tam]

Incorrect. Mineral dust is made up primarily of silicon, iron, magnesium, aluminum and oxygen.
We are made up mostly of lighter elements, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, sodium potassium, water...
If the Bible were right, we’d be rocky creatures, if compassionist is right we would be creatures like we are now.
We’re God a real creator, it’d be just as easy for him to get the story right as screw it up, right?

[tam]

Peace to you,

[Replying to post 4 by Willum]

I'm just repeating what the science said, Willum.


https://www.physicscentral.com/explore/ ... ardust.cfm



Peace again to you!

[Willum]

[Replying to post 5 by tam]

Perhaps you believe you are. What we know about science is what I said.
Science flies you to the Moon, religion flies you into buildings.
The Bible let’s you believe all dust is created equal, science lets you know dust has any composition.

[Compassionist]

[Replying to post 1 by Compassionist]

Yes, sin is a transgression against (an imaginary) God.
Only religious-Jews and Christians sin, and are born in sin.
The rest of us are awesome.

Such a cool concept you present to us.
Except for veganism.

It isn't for everyone. It made the Dali Lama ill, so it can't be the one true path.

So sorry about the much delayed reply. I was away from the forum but now I am back for a short while. Thank you for your reply. I totally agree with you.

[Compassionist]

[Replying to post 3 by tam]

Incorrect. Mineral dust is made up primarily of silicon, iron, magnesium, aluminum and oxygen.
We are made up mostly of lighter elements, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, sodium potassium, water...
If the Bible were right, we’d be rocky creatures, if compassionist is right we would be creatures like we are now.
We’re God a real creator, it’d be just as easy for him to get the story right as screw it up, right?

Yes, you are right. Please see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositi ... human_body

[Tart]

[Replying to Compassionist]

Well I’m a man, and I eat food, and I fight a war everyday, and I’m not going down without a fight! And I live faithfully!

This guy is a pacifist vegan... do you hate yourself?

[Tart]

Is there no war to be fought!!!??