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Jesus WILL NEVER be the Messiah. We, the Jews promise u tha

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The Messiah comes from the Hebrew Scriptures. The Jewish Bible.

He is the Jewish Messiah. The Jews decide who is the Messiah. No one else. And we promise you that we will NEVER EVER ACCEPT JESUS. NEVER

The reason why Jesus hasn't done the work is because he isn't the Messiah. You think you are waiting because the Jews reject Jesus? Lame. There is no second coming. The Messiah will do the work with or without the permission of the Jews. We can't stop him. Why are you waiting for a dead guy to return? Yeah...keep waiting. How many more thousand years are you going to wait? If he could have helped you he would have already. Jesus...some Messiah he is. He did nothing.

JESUS WILL NEVER WEAR THE CROWN OF DAVID. WE PROMISE YOU THAT. NEVER!!! And he has been rejected. The Jews will never give the crown to a do- nothing New that just walks around talking a good game. He must earn the title! Christians can't be trusted with the crown.

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Avoice wrote:
He is the Jewish Messiah. The Jews decide who is the Messiah. No one else. And we promise you that we will NEVER EVER ACCEPT JESUS. NEVER
You are obviously free to decide who or what you personally will accept as the Messiah. However, it was originally Jews who declared that Jesus is the Messiah.

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Better a Jesus in the hand, than some other versions who ain’t coming.

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Avoice wrote:

JESUS WILL NEVER WEAR THE CROWN OF DAVID. WE PROMISE YOU THAT. NEVER!!! And he has been rejected. The Jews will never give the crown to a do- nothing New that just walks around talking a good game. He must earn the title! Christians can't be trusted with the crown.

William: Is there an actual crown or is this just folklore. Like the Ark of The Covenant...

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Avoice wrote: The Messiah comes from the Hebrew Scriptures. The Jewish Bible.

He is the Jewish Messiah. The Jews decide who is the Messiah. ....
Interesting, by what I know, it is God who sets the King of Jews, not Jews themselves.

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[Replying to post 5 by 1213]

Sorta true, but whenever a Jew gets upset by what God does, like Lot or Moses and others, they trick him into doing what they want.

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bjs wrote:
Avoice wrote:
He is the Jewish Messiah. The Jews decide who is the Messiah. No one else. And we promise you that we will NEVER EVER ACCEPT JESUS. NEVER
You are obviously free to decide who or what you personally will accept as the Messiah. However, it was originally Jews who declared that Jesus is the Messiah.
SOME Jews. A very, very small minority of Jews, Jesus original followers. The overwhelming majority of Jews reject Jesus as Messiah because he in no way ushered in the Messianic age, but was instead crucified by the Romans. The Messiah was supposed to have been triumphant, setting Israel above the Nations including Rome.
My theological positions:

-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.

I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.

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[Replying to post 7 by Elijah John]

Any chance of the statistics?
How many Jews converted?
How many didn't?

You are aware the religious practices of the Pharisee were essentially those of Christians, except, the Christians whose savior had not come yet?

The ration of Christians to Judaists has always been about the same, 1 to hundreds. Why wouldn't that be true when the fire was first lit?

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Willum wrote: [Replying to post 7 by Elijah John]

Any chance of the statistics?
How many Jews converted?
Very few.
Willum wrote: How many didn't?
Most Jews didn't convert. Christians found most of their converts in the pool of Gentiles, amidst the Nations. (other places in the Roman Empire, not Palestine)

Willum wrote: You are aware the religious practices of the Pharisee were essentially those of Christians, except, the Christians whose savior had not come yet?
That's a simplistic and misleading observation. Because the Pharisees never considered that the Messiah would be a human sacrifice to "pay for" the sins of humanity.
Willum wrote: The ration of Christians to Judaists has always been about the same, 1 to hundreds. Why wouldn't that be true when the fire was first lit?
It's Gentile converts who bolster the numbers of Christians, not "Jews for Jesus". It was true back then, and it remains so today.
My theological positions:

-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.

I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.

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[Replying to post 9 by Elijah John]

So you have repeated the same claims I have challenged without refutation...
There are and have always been more converts to Christianity than Judaism.
And far more famous apostates.

It is hardly a gross oversimplification of the Pharisee, as so little is known about them. They were Messiac, Resurrectionist and believed in simple forgiveness. Those are the fundamentals of Christianity, especially if your saviour hasn't come yet.

So, well, I guess...
BOOM.

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