John 1:1- Abused for 2,000 years!

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John 1:1- Abused for 2,000 years!

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It is so EASY to understand it, IF you read the context of the chapter- and the whole book!

But, for 2,000 years, Churchianity cast a spell on mankinds to think it means~

In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with Jesus, and Jesus was Jesus!

Yes, Jesus IS God! But not as taught by the Churches!
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Let's look closer at the context here- then continue thru the whole book!

John 1:1- In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2- He was in the beginning with God; 3 all things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made.

Since even Trinitarians admit the THREE 'Co-Equal' 'Persons' are not THREE Gods, this alone shows the Word (Jesus) isn't LITERALLY God, but represented Him- for ONE God was not WITH another God. The word was WITH the entity "God". And no Third ANYTHING is mentioned! This would have been the ideal place for the 'Trinity' to be taught and explaned, but no mention was made of it- as with the ENTIRE Bible!
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John 11:21- Martha said to Jesus, “Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died. 22- And even now I know that whatever you ask from God, God will give you.”"

Even those close to Jesus knew he wasn't God.
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John 11:27- She said to him, “Yes, Lord; I believe that you are the Christ, the son of God, he who is coming into the world.”

How do you think that would read if she believe Jesus was literally God..or ONE of 'Them'?
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John 12:27- “Now is my soul troubled. And what shall I say? ‘Father, save me from this hour’? No, for this purpose I have come to this hour.
28- Father, glorify thy name.” Then a voice came from heaven, “I have glorified it, and I will glorify it again.”

Did one or 2 Gods speak from Heaven, or the only true God Jesus identified at John 17:3?
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John 12:44- And Jesus cried out and said, “He who believes in me, believes not in me but in Him who sent me.
45- And he who sees me sees Him who sent me."

True Christians easily understand this, but not Trinitarians!
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John 12:49- For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken.

Now, come on, Trinitarians- NO ONE can COMMAND God!
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John 14:1- Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God;
believe >>> ALSO <<< in me.
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Did Thomas, when later exclaiming "My Lord and my God", refer to a 'Trinity'?
Even though Jesus NEVER taught such a thing?

John 14:5- Thomas said to him, “Lord, we don’t know where you are going, so how can we know the way?”
6- Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
7- If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”

Now many Trinnies say Jesus IS the Father, because of this and another similar statement!
HOW can you reason with such?
That would mean Jesus was talking about HIMSELF all these times!

HOW did they see God when seeing Jesus? Simple- he was JUST LIKE him- as so clearly stated in the Bible!
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John 14:9- Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

Now, was Jesus his own Father? Did he have a spliut-personality? Did his God and Father possess Jesus' body?
Or did He WORK through His son?

10- Don’t you believe that I am in [or "with"] the Father, and that the Father is in [or "with"] me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.
11- Believe me when I say that I am in [or "with"] the Father and the Father is in [or "with"] me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves.

No Nameless Ghost referred to, either.
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John 14:20- On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.

There goes Churchianity's version of "indwelling"- unless they claim this means their Triune Godhead has possessed billions of church-goers!
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John 14:24- Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.

No three 'co-equal' God 'beings/persons/essences/natures'...
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