It is so EASY to understand it, IF you read the context of the chapter- and the whole book!
But, for 2,000 years, Churchianity cast a spell on mankinds to think it means~
In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with Jesus, and Jesus was Jesus!
Yes, Jesus IS God! But not as taught by the Churches!
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Let's look closer at the context here- then continue thru the whole book!
John 1:1- In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2- He was in the beginning with God; 3 all things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made.
Since even Trinitarians admit the THREE 'Co-Equal' 'Persons' are not THREE Gods, this alone shows the Word (Jesus) isn't LITERALLY God, but represented Him- for ONE God was not WITH another God. The word was WITH the entity "God". And no Third ANYTHING is mentioned! This would have been the ideal place for the 'Trinity' to be taught and explaned, but no mention was made of it- as with the ENTIRE Bible!
John 1:1- Abused for 2,000 years!
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Post #21John 5:22- The Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the son.
NO ONE can give God authority!
NO ONE can give God authority!
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Post #23John 5:26- For as the Father has life in Himself, so he has granted the son also to have life in himself, 27- and has given him authority to execute judgment, because he is the son of man.
No one can grant or give God Authority.
No one can grant or give God Authority.
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Post #24John 5:30- “I can do nothing on my own authority; as I hear, I judge; and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will but the will of Him who sent me.
Nothing 'Co-Equal'- Jesus's authority was from God. Not a 'Trinity'.
Nothing 'Co-Equal'- Jesus's authority was from God. Not a 'Trinity'.
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Post #25John 6:27- Don’t work for food that spoils. Work for food that gives eternal life. The son of man will give you this food, because God the Father has given him the right to do so.
No one can give God the "right" to do anything...
No one can give God the "right" to do anything...
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Post #27John 6:28- Then they said to him, “What must we do, to be doing the works of God?”
29- Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom He has sent.”
God was always spoken of as being a person other than Jesus.
29- Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom He has sent.”
God was always spoken of as being a person other than Jesus.
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Post #28John 6:38- For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of Him who sent me;
39- and this is the will of Him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that He has given me, but raise it up at the last day.
40- For this is the will of my Father, that every one who sees the son and believes in him should have eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”
Several facts shown here, as Jesus shows he is not literally God: that he DID live previously in Heaven, and that there is NO SUCH THING as an 'IMMORTAL soul'!
39- and this is the will of Him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that He has given me, but raise it up at the last day.
40- For this is the will of my Father, that every one who sees the son and believes in him should have eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”
Several facts shown here, as Jesus shows he is not literally God: that he DID live previously in Heaven, and that there is NO SUCH THING as an 'IMMORTAL soul'!
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Post #29John 6:46- Not that any one has seen the Father except him who is from God; he has seen the Father.
And yet Tinitarians deny this, then quote him saying "When you've seen me, you've seen the Father", reading it as "I AM God-the-Father!"
This who have Jesus saying the above a wee bity differently~
"ALL of you have seen the Father because I am God from God!"
Heh! You can easily lose your mind trying to squeeze the 'Trinity' into Jesus' words!
And yet Tinitarians deny this, then quote him saying "When you've seen me, you've seen the Father", reading it as "I AM God-the-Father!"
This who have Jesus saying the above a wee bity differently~
"ALL of you have seen the Father because I am God from God!"
Heh! You can easily lose your mind trying to squeeze the 'Trinity' into Jesus' words!
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Post #30John 6:57- As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father...
God's life is NOT dependant on someone else. Jesus acknowledged HIS is!
God's life is NOT dependant on someone else. Jesus acknowledged HIS is!
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