John 1:1- Abused for 2,000 years!

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John 1:1- Abused for 2,000 years!

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It is so EASY to understand it, IF you read the context of the chapter- and the whole book!

But, for 2,000 years, Churchianity cast a spell on mankinds to think it means~

In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with Jesus, and Jesus was Jesus!

Yes, Jesus IS God! But not as taught by the Churches!
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Let's look closer at the context here- then continue thru the whole book!

John 1:1- In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2- He was in the beginning with God; 3 all things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made.

Since even Trinitarians admit the THREE 'Co-Equal' 'Persons' are not THREE Gods, this alone shows the Word (Jesus) isn't LITERALLY God, but represented Him- for ONE God was not WITH another God. The word was WITH the entity "God". And no Third ANYTHING is mentioned! This would have been the ideal place for the 'Trinity' to be taught and explaned, but no mention was made of it- as with the ENTIRE Bible!
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A scripture they HAD to spin to prop up their Imaginary Triad~

John 14: 28- If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.

They chant: "This is only when he was a man".
Yet they teach he was GOD as a man.

So, as always, the Bible shows no 'Co-Eqality', much less a 3-in-One God...
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John 14:30- I will not say much more to you, for the prince of this world is coming. He has no hold over me,
31- but he comes so that the world may learn that I love the Father and do exactly what my Father has commanded me.

No one can command God...
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John 15:10- If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love.

Our King commands us, and his God commands him.
NO ONE can command God.
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John 15:20- Remember what I told you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also. 21- They will treat you this way because of my name, for they do not know the One who sent me.

NO ONE commands and sends God.
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John 16:5- Now I am going to Him who sent me.

Jesus again says someone sent him.
NO ONE sends God anywhere...
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John 16:27- No, the Father himself loves you because you have loved me and have believed that I came from God. 28- I came from the Father and entered the world; now I am leaving the world and going back to the Father.

Again, Jesus says God is someone else!
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John 16:29- Then Jesus’ disciples said, “Now you are speaking clearly and without figures of speech. 30- Now we can see that you know all things and that you do not even need to have anyone ask you questions. This makes us believe that you came from God.”

Jesus disciples well knew Jesus wasn't literally God.
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John 17:1- Father, the hour has come. Glorify your son, that your son may glorify You. 2- For You granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those You have given him.

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John 17:2- For You granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those You have given him.

Two facts revealed: Jesus is not literally God (no one can give God authority), and that there is NO SUCH THING as an 'IMMORTAL soul'.
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Tragilarious that this forum considers the words of my Lord (supposedly theirs) as "Rambling"......
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