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Mark 14:12 . . And the first day of Unleavened Bread, when they killed the Passover, his disciples said unto him: Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the Passover?

That passage can be a bit misleading for folks unaware that the seven-day feast of Unleavened Bread (a.k.a. Passover) consists of a total of eight days.

The "first day" is when all the lambs are slaughtered and roasted with fire, ready to eat by sunset; which is when the seven-day part of the feast kicks off seeing as how the Jews' holy days begin and end with sunset.

In other words: the "first day" isn't a holy day. In point of fact it is a very busy day because of all the preparations that have to be made for dinner that night; which includes a witch hunt (so to speak) for any and all leavened bread in the Jews' homes.

Matt 26:3 . .Then the chief priests and the elders of the people assembled in the palace of the high priest, whose name was Caiaphas, and they plotted to arrest Jesus in some sly way and kill him. But not during the Feast-- they said --or there may be a riot among the people.

They failed to accomplish Jesus' death apart from the Feast.

The fixings for Jesus' Passover were prepared on the day leading up to the night of his arrest. The Jews prepared for their Passover on the day of his crucifixion. In other words: Jesus' Passover was prepared a day ahead of theirs.

He being a prophet in direct contact with God would know the correct date of the "first day" of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, whereas the Jews' calculations were vulnerable to human error. Consequently the Jews were unaware that their religious calendar was running behind that year.

So, as it turned out; Jesus was crucified on what the Jews believed was the day of preparation, but in reality was one of the seven days of the Feast.

* The Jews' mistake worked to Jesus' advantage. Had their calendar been correct, then Jesus would've lost an opportunity to share one last sacred event with his men; something he really wanted to do.

"Then, at the proper time, Jesus and the twelve apostles sat down together at the table. Jesus said: I have looked forward to this hour with deep longing, anxious to eat this Passover meal with you before my suffering begins." (Luke 22:14-15)
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WebersHome wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:13 pmThe fixings for Jesus' Passover were prepared on the day leading up to the night of his arrest. The Jews prepared for their Passover on the day of his crucifixion. In other words: Jesus' Passover was prepared a day ahead of theirs.

He being a prophet in direct contact with God would know the correct date of the "first day" of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, whereas the Jews' calculations were vulnerable to human error. Consequently the Jews were unaware that their religious calendar was running behind that year.

So, as it turned out; Jesus was crucified on what the Jews believed was the day of preparation, but in reality was one of the seven days of the Feast.
You've claimed this before and it seems a clever way to harmonize one broad contradiction between the Gospel of John and the Synoptics, but I can't find any textual support for the assertion. Does Scripture actually support any of this or is the mere existence of a contradiction evidence enough?
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Jesus isn't done with Passover just yet. His so-called last supper wasn't the end of it.


Luke 22:15-16 . . I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer. For I tell you: I will not eat it again until it finds fulfillment in the kingdom of God.

In order to conduct a proper Passover, Jesus will require a Temple in Jerusalem staffed by qualified Levitical priests. That's coming.


Jer 33:17-18 . . For this is what The Lord says: David will never fail to have a man to sit on the throne of the house of Israel, nor will the priests, who are Levites, ever fail to have a man to stand before me continually to offer burnt offerings, to burn grain offerings and to present sacrifices.

Jer 33:19-22 . .This is what The Lord says: If you can break my covenant with the day and my covenant with the night, so that day and night no longer come at their appointed time, then my covenant with David my servant-- and my covenant with the Levites who are priests ministering before me --can be broken and David will no longer have a descendant to reign on his throne. I will make the descendants of David my servant and the Levites who minister before me as countless as the stars of the sky and as measureless as the sand on the seashore.

See also Ezek 40:1 thru 46:24
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Difflugia wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:09 amDoes Scripture actually support any of this?
Yes.
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WebersHome wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:13 pmHe being a prophet
The primary occupation of a prophet is to speak for God.

Deut 18:15-19 . .The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own brothers. You must listen to him. . .The Lord said to me: "I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him. If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name, I myself will call him to account.

Jesus fulfilled Moses' prediction.


Acts 3:21-24 . . For Moses said: "The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own people; you must listen to everything he tells you. Anyone who does not listen to him will be completely cut off from among his people. Indeed, all the prophets from Samuel on, as many as have spoken, have foretold these days.

John 3:34 . .He is sent by God. He speaks God's words

John 8:26 . .He that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of Him.

John 8:28 . . I do nothing on my own initiative, but I speak these things as the Father taught me.

John 12:49 . . I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, He gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

John 14:24 . .The word which you hear is not mine, but the Father's who sent me.

Although Jesus is easily the most reliable prophet that the people of Israel will ever encounter, his messages were often ignored; especially by those closest to him.


Matt 13:54-58 . . Coming to His home town He began teaching them in their synagogue. . . And they took offense at Him. But Jesus said to them: "A prophet is not without honor except in his home town, and in his own household." And he did not do many miracles there because of their unbelief.
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WebersHome wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:18 pm
Difflugia wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:09 amDoes Scripture actually support any of this?
Yes.
Which verses support Jesus receiving a revelation that the Passover began on a different day than the rest of Jerusalem understood it?
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Difflugia wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 4:21 pmWhich verses support Jesus receiving a revelation that the Passover began on a different day than the rest of Jerusalem understood it?

Jesus didn't come into the world as an independent agent, instead; he came as a servant.

John 6:38 . . I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of Him who sent me

The scope of Jesus' servitude was extensive enough to cost him his life.


Phil 2:7-8 . . He made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death

Jesus' itinerary was managed by a higher power.


John 8:28 . . I do nothing on my own initiative

As any good servant would, Jesus' complied.


John 8:29 . . He that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please Him.

John 14:31 . . I do exactly what my Father has commanded me.

In my judicious estimation; the above bits of information are sufficient evidence that God kept His servant informed as to the correct date of that year's Passover without my having to see a complete transcript of all that's ever been said between them.
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WebersHome wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:24 amIn my judicious estimation; the above bits of information are sufficient evidence that God kept His servant informed as to the correct date of that year's Passover without my having to see a complete transcript of all that's ever been said between them.
You're just making the circular argument that whatever you want God to have told Jesus is what He told him. I agree with the theology that God could have told Jesus anything He wanted to, but how did you come to the conclusion that God told Jesus to eat the Passover meal on a different day than the rest of Jerusalem did?

Using your argument, I could claim that God told Jesus that chocolate bunnies were a part of Easter and therefore Jesus ate chocolate bunnies. All of the verses you gave would support that as well. Once again, you're telling the Bible what it means by adding things that aren't there.
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So, as it turned out; Jesus was crucified on what the Jews believed was the day of preparation, but in reality was one of the seven days of the Feast.
If the day of the crucifixion wasn't the day of preparation, why does the author of the fourth gospel explicitly and repeatedly say that it was (19:14, 31)?

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Athetotheist wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 3:23 pmIf the day of the crucifixion wasn't the day of preparation, why does the author of the fourth gospel explicitly and repeatedly say that it was (19:14, 31)?
That was the Jews' prep day for their Passover supper which, according to Jesus' itinerary, should've been the launch day of the seven-day Feast of Unleavened Bread, viz: the Jews' religious calendar was running late that year.
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