What is Man?

Exploring the details of Christianity

Moderator: Moderators

Sojournerofthearth
Apprentice
Posts: 198
Joined: Fri May 12, 2017 11:24 pm
Has thanked: 7 times
Been thanked: 9 times

What is Man?

Post #1

Post by Sojournerofthearth »

I know there are a wide variety of beliefs in this forum, encompassing any imaginable range of ideologies of who and what God is.

But I am curious, what, do you believe, is the purpose for the creation of mankind?

Why did God create Him?
What is the purpose of his existence on this Earth at this time?
What do you believe is the role of mankind in the resurrection?
And what do you believe, at his "change" that he will be changed to?
And what do you believe is the criteria to attain that resurrection?
What will prevent him from receiving his reward?
What do you base your beliefs, regarding mankind, on?

Soj

User avatar
JehovahsWitness
Savant
Posts: 22893
Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:03 am
Has thanked: 900 times
Been thanked: 1339 times
Contact:

Re: What is Man?

Post #11

Post by JehovahsWitness »

Sojournerofthearth wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:29 am
JehovahsWitness:
What is the purpose of his existence on this Earth at this time? To be perfectly happy
Ouch! Major fail.
Your conclusion is somewhat premature, the fat lady hath not yet sung.
Sojournerofthearth wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:29 amI mean, even here in these United States, there are a lot of people whose lives are brutally unhappy. Certainly, some of their own volition, but others are victims of cruel fate of every imaginable kind.
That is a sad present day reality but not one God intended and not one he will tolerate forever.

Sojournerofthearth wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:29 am If that is God's extended plan, why not get right to that part and save mankind from itself?
There were some major issues that needed to be settled.






JW
Last edited by JehovahsWitness on Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:22 am, edited 2 times in total.
INDEX: More bible based ANSWERS
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681


"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" -
Romans 14:8

User avatar
JehovahsWitness
Savant
Posts: 22893
Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:03 am
Has thanked: 900 times
Been thanked: 1339 times
Contact:

Re: What is Man?

Post #12

Post by JehovahsWitness »

Sojournerofthearth wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:29 am1 Corinthians 15:50-54, 2 Corinthians 3:18, 1Thess 4:14-17, Php 3:21, 1Jn 3:2
We believe those scriptures apply ONLY to 144,000 individuals.



  • And what do you believe, at his "change" that he will be changed to? The 144,000 will be changed from humans (with flesh and blood bodies) to spirits (with spirit bodies, like God, Jesus and the angels have).
  • what will he be doing into eternity? Mankind [humans] will spend eternity living in perfect happiness on earth. The 144,000 will rule with Jesus for 1000 years and thereafter spend eternity in heaven.
  • What do you believe is the role of mankind in the resurrection? There will be two resurrections: mankinds "role" is to receive one.
  • And what do you believe is the criteria to attain that resurrection? Die and not be incorrigibly wicked for life on earth. Be a born again chosen Christian for life in heaven.
Sojournerofthearth wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:29 am
So, what does that mean in relation to the above question?
  • It means a person should try not to be wicked.




JEHOVAH'S WITNESS
INDEX: More bible based ANSWERS
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681


"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" -
Romans 14:8

2timothy316
Under Probation
Posts: 4296
Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:51 am
Has thanked: 193 times
Been thanked: 494 times

Re: What is Man?

Post #13

Post by 2timothy316 »

Last edited by 2timothy316 on Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:53 am, edited 1 time in total.

2timothy316
Under Probation
Posts: 4296
Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:51 am
Has thanked: 193 times
Been thanked: 494 times

Re: What is Man?

Post #14

Post by 2timothy316 »


User avatar
PinSeeker
Banned
Banned
Posts: 2920
Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:07 pm
Has thanked: 53 times
Been thanked: 74 times

Re: What is Man?

Post #15

Post by PinSeeker »

Sojournerofthearth wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:00 pm ...what, do you believe, is the purpose for the creation of mankind? Why did God create Him?
For His own glory. God's chief end is to glorify Himself. Everything He does is for that purpose. However, it's not merely a selfish thing and thus sinful, as some might think.
Sojournerofthearth wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:00 pm What is the purpose of his existence on this Earth at this time?
The chief end of man is to glorify God and enjoy Him forever. This has also been stated thusly: to glorify God by enjoying Him forever.
Sojournerofthearth wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:00 pm What do you believe is the role of mankind in the resurrection?
To be... resurrected... :) Our spirits will be reunited with our resurrected physical bodies (those not physically alive at that time of Jesus's return, anyway). But all will be resurrected, some to eternal redemption and some to eternal judgment.
Sojournerofthearth wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:00 pm And what do you believe, at his "change" that he will be changed to?
He will no longer be capable of sin. They will truly glorify God and (by) enjoy(ing) Him forever.
Sojournerofthearth wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:00 pm And what do you believe is the criteria to attain that resurrection?
Life in Christ, God the Son, given by God the Spirit, of the immutable will of the God the Father. In this world, because of the new life given, it will inevitably be evidenced by faith and repentance. And good works are the evidence of that faith.
Sojournerofthearth wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:00 pm What will prevent him from receiving his reward?
One's remaining dead in his/her trespasses -- which is his/her natural-born condition -- not having received new life in Christ by the Spirit by the will of the Father. In that case, he/she will have never been given faith and subsequently repented of his/her sin. The person may still do good works from time to time, but works not proceeding from God-given faith are, while "nice" -- and even a benefit to others -- of no avail. He/she will remain dead, forever.
Sojournerofthearth wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:00 pm What do you base your beliefs, regarding mankind, on?
Sola Scriptura, my friend. God's holy, infallible, inerrant Word. The grass withers, and the flowers fade, but the Word of our God endures/stands forever.

Grace and peace to you.

2timothy316
Under Probation
Posts: 4296
Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:51 am
Has thanked: 193 times
Been thanked: 494 times

Re: What is Man?

Post #16

Post by 2timothy316 »


myth-one.com
Savant
Posts: 7469
Joined: Wed Aug 09, 2006 4:16 pm
Has thanked: 32 times
Been thanked: 98 times
Contact:

Re: What is Man?

Post #17

Post by myth-one.com »

Sojournerofthearth wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:00 pm And what do you believe, at his "change" that he will be changed to?
PinSeeker wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:49 am He will no longer be capable of sin.
Sin is the transgression of God's laws, or commandments:
I John 3:4 wrote:For sin is the transgression of the law.
As long as God gives commandments and the beings He created have the freedom to obey or disobey those laws, sin will always be an option.

So which case will it be?

Will the commandments from God go away?

Or will our freedom of choice go away?

User avatar
PinSeeker
Banned
Banned
Posts: 2920
Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:07 pm
Has thanked: 53 times
Been thanked: 74 times

Re: What is Man?

Post #18

Post by PinSeeker »


User avatar
PinSeeker
Banned
Banned
Posts: 2920
Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:07 pm
Has thanked: 53 times
Been thanked: 74 times

Re: What is Man?

Post #19

Post by PinSeeker »

myth-one.com wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:01 am As long as God gives commandments and the beings He created have the freedom to obey or disobey those laws, sin will always be an option. So which case will it be? Will the commandments from God go away? Or will our freedom of choice go away?
The commandments will remain, for sure. But it's not about "freedom," or any lack thereof. It's about the fact that we'll finally be wholly and completely redeemed, renewed, and glorified. That being the case, we will therefore not be inclined in any way whatsoever to sin but completely against it. Therefore, we will be incapable of sin from that time forth and forevermore.

Grace and peace to you, myth-one.

myth-one.com
Savant
Posts: 7469
Joined: Wed Aug 09, 2006 4:16 pm
Has thanked: 32 times
Been thanked: 98 times
Contact:

Re: What is Man?

Post #20

Post by myth-one.com »

PinSeeker wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:10 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:01 am As long as God gives commandments and the beings He created have the freedom to obey or disobey those laws, sin will always be an option. So which case will it be? Will the commandments from God go away? Or will our freedom of choice go away?
The commandments will remain, for sure. But it's not about "freedom," or any lack thereof. It's about the fact that we'll finally be wholly and completely redeemed, renewed, and glorified. That being the case, we will therefore not be inclined in any way whatsoever to sin but completely against it. Therefore, we will be incapable of sin from that time forth and forevermore.

Grace and peace to you, myth-one.
1) God's laws will still exist.
2) Disobeying God's law is sin.
3) Born again Christians may choose to obey or disobey God's law.
4) Therefore, they will be incapable of committing any sin eternally.

That's how it works?

Post Reply