I know there are a wide variety of beliefs in this forum, encompassing any imaginable range of ideologies of who and what God is.
But I am curious, what, do you believe, is the purpose for the creation of mankind?
Why did God create Him?
What is the purpose of his existence on this Earth at this time?
What do you believe is the role of mankind in the resurrection?
And what do you believe, at his "change" that he will be changed to?
And what do you believe is the criteria to attain that resurrection?
What will prevent him from receiving his reward?
What do you base your beliefs, regarding mankind, on?
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Re: What is Man?
Post #11Your conclusion is somewhat premature, the fat lady hath not yet sung.Sojournerofthearth wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:29 amOuch! Major fail.JehovahsWitness:
What is the purpose of his existence on this Earth at this time? To be perfectly happy
That is a sad present day reality but not one God intended and not one he will tolerate forever.Sojournerofthearth wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:29 amI mean, even here in these United States, there are a lot of people whose lives are brutally unhappy. Certainly, some of their own volition, but others are victims of cruel fate of every imaginable kind.
There were some major issues that needed to be settled.Sojournerofthearth wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:29 am If that is God's extended plan, why not get right to that part and save mankind from itself?
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Post #12We believe those scriptures apply ONLY to 144,000 individuals.Sojournerofthearth wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:29 am1 Corinthians 15:50-54, 2 Corinthians 3:18, 1Thess 4:14-17, Php 3:21, 1Jn 3:2
- And what do you believe, at his "change" that he will be changed to? The 144,000 will be changed from humans (with flesh and blood bodies) to spirits (with spirit bodies, like God, Jesus and the angels have).
- what will he be doing into eternity? Mankind [humans] will spend eternity living in perfect happiness on earth. The 144,000 will rule with Jesus for 1000 years and thereafter spend eternity in heaven.
- What do you believe is the role of mankind in the resurrection? There will be two resurrections: mankinds "role" is to receive one.
- And what do you believe is the criteria to attain that resurrection? Die and not be incorrigibly wicked for life on earth. Be a born again chosen Christian for life in heaven.
Sojournerofthearth wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:29 am
So, what does that mean in relation to the above question?
- It means a person should try not to be wicked.
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Post #15For His own glory. God's chief end is to glorify Himself. Everything He does is for that purpose. However, it's not merely a selfish thing and thus sinful, as some might think.Sojournerofthearth wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:00 pm ...what, do you believe, is the purpose for the creation of mankind? Why did God create Him?
The chief end of man is to glorify God and enjoy Him forever. This has also been stated thusly: to glorify God by enjoying Him forever.Sojournerofthearth wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:00 pm What is the purpose of his existence on this Earth at this time?
To be... resurrected...Sojournerofthearth wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:00 pm What do you believe is the role of mankind in the resurrection?

He will no longer be capable of sin. They will truly glorify God and (by) enjoy(ing) Him forever.Sojournerofthearth wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:00 pm And what do you believe, at his "change" that he will be changed to?
Life in Christ, God the Son, given by God the Spirit, of the immutable will of the God the Father. In this world, because of the new life given, it will inevitably be evidenced by faith and repentance. And good works are the evidence of that faith.Sojournerofthearth wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:00 pm And what do you believe is the criteria to attain that resurrection?
One's remaining dead in his/her trespasses -- which is his/her natural-born condition -- not having received new life in Christ by the Spirit by the will of the Father. In that case, he/she will have never been given faith and subsequently repented of his/her sin. The person may still do good works from time to time, but works not proceeding from God-given faith are, while "nice" -- and even a benefit to others -- of no avail. He/she will remain dead, forever.Sojournerofthearth wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:00 pm What will prevent him from receiving his reward?
Sola Scriptura, my friend. God's holy, infallible, inerrant Word. The grass withers, and the flowers fade, but the Word of our God endures/stands forever.Sojournerofthearth wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:00 pm What do you base your beliefs, regarding mankind, on?
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Post #17Sojournerofthearth wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:00 pm And what do you believe, at his "change" that he will be changed to?
Sin is the transgression of God's laws, or commandments:
As long as God gives commandments and the beings He created have the freedom to obey or disobey those laws, sin will always be an option.I John 3:4 wrote:For sin is the transgression of the law.
So which case will it be?
Will the commandments from God go away?
Or will our freedom of choice go away?
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Post #19The commandments will remain, for sure. But it's not about "freedom," or any lack thereof. It's about the fact that we'll finally be wholly and completely redeemed, renewed, and glorified. That being the case, we will therefore not be inclined in any way whatsoever to sin but completely against it. Therefore, we will be incapable of sin from that time forth and forevermore.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:01 am As long as God gives commandments and the beings He created have the freedom to obey or disobey those laws, sin will always be an option. So which case will it be? Will the commandments from God go away? Or will our freedom of choice go away?
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Post #201) God's laws will still exist.PinSeeker wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:10 pmThe commandments will remain, for sure. But it's not about "freedom," or any lack thereof. It's about the fact that we'll finally be wholly and completely redeemed, renewed, and glorified. That being the case, we will therefore not be inclined in any way whatsoever to sin but completely against it. Therefore, we will be incapable of sin from that time forth and forevermore.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:01 am As long as God gives commandments and the beings He created have the freedom to obey or disobey those laws, sin will always be an option. So which case will it be? Will the commandments from God go away? Or will our freedom of choice go away?
Grace and peace to you, myth-one.
2) Disobeying God's law is sin.
3) Born again Christians may choose to obey or disobey God's law.
4) Therefore, they will be incapable of committing any sin eternally.
That's how it works?