God has proved his love for you

[kjw47]

Gods plan = mortals to live in an Eden( Paradise) knowing only good, never sick, never without. To live forever not aging like now. That is what Gods plan began, it is still his plan. He created all things with variety for us to enjoy. His word says, he knew us before our kidneys were formed, he knows the exact number of hairs on our heads. Think about that. God could easily see us as we see little ants scurrying about. The creator of all creation thinks about us individually and wants to be our friend. He sent his son to die on our behalf's. He asks us to use our free will out of love for him to listen to his advice. Which benefits us not him. He gave us his written word. Few have bothered to read it and learn about how merciful and loving he is. His son showed us that side while he was on earth. But he also stands for justice. And those who cant be bothered to learn about him and listen to him are choosing not to enter his kingdom and gain eternal life. His name is YHWH(Jehovah) the only true God.
Will you learn to be his friend?

[kjw47]

[Replying to kjw47 in post #1]

Not a single atheist admitted they felt loved after reading this, let alone follow Jesus. Not one.

Athiests are lost to the darkness.

[Mae von H]

Gods plan = mortals to live in an Eden( Paradise) knowing only good, never sick, never without. To live forever not aging like now. That is what Gods plan began, it is still his plan. He created all things with variety for us to enjoy. His word says, he knew us before our kidneys were formed, he knows the exact number of hairs on our heads. Think about that. God could easily see us as we see little ants scurrying about. The creator of all creation thinks about us individually and wants to be our friend. He sent his son to die on our behalf's. He asks us to use our free will out of love for him to listen to his advice. Which benefits us not him. He gave us his written word. Few have bothered to read it and learn about how merciful and loving he is. His son showed us that side while he was on earth. But he also stands for justice. And those who cant be bothered to learn about him and listen to him are choosing not to enter his kingdom and gain eternal life. His name is YHWH(Jehovah) the only true God.
Will you learn to be his friend?

You know, most people do not experience being loved by being given information. I know what you are trying to convey but I will be surprised if atheists feel loved by this rather impersonal information. Being loved is a very personal experience. Information is impersonal.

I do not blame you. This sort of thing I hear from the pulpit frequently. And the audience nods their heads and pretend this information makes them feel loved. It is not very real because God does this for everyone. So it is hard to feel special and being loved is feeling special. As a child, you know you are special to your parents. They do not love you the same as they love everyone else on earth. So this sort of information makes no one feel special as it applies to everyone in the world.

And btw, Jesus taught us to call God "Father" not YHWH. When a man starts to call his father by his first name, it is a step into a less intimate relationship. Most fathers will not feel happy about their son calling them by the same word that their friends do because it DENYS the special relationship they have. It is rather an insult because it is refusing to accept him as father.

I feel loved by God because He told me that he loves me. That is how human beings feel loved. A person expresses love for them in particular.

Actually Jesus taught his Fathers name to his followers( John 17:6) and promised to keep on making his name known( John 17:26)-

6“I have manifested your name to the people whom you gave me out of the world. Yours they were, and you gave them to me, and they have kept your word. hmmmm can you please point out "Jehovah" in that sentence?

he doesn't do that by telling one direct, but through his real religion and true followers that name is loved and used.

Where does he do this? If his name, that one word, is loved, how come no one every used it???

In the Lords prayer Jesus showed all the #1 issue for him and all followers is his Fathers name.

How come he never used it then?

God put his his name in his bible over 7000 places-the wicked removed it by satans will. Thus ones religion shows who they support by the translation they use. Jesus would use a translation with his Fathers name in every one of the spots that his Father willed it-0 doubt in all creation, thus so would the religion he is the head of-0 doubt in all creation.

huh? Jesus never spoke that word nor did any of the New Testament writers use it. But I know the whole JW spiel. You see that word where it is not and worse.

Jerome who translated the Latin Vulgate in the 300,s ce told the Catholic leader that Gods name belongs in the NT.
In 2015 the divine name kjv came out with Gods name in over 200 spots of NT-Why? Because it belongs there.

I don’t believe it. The Vulgate, btw, was such a bad translation, the reformers were shocked when they got the unvarnished Greek manuscripts so even if it is true, Jerome was the worst source for that idea.

[kjw47]

Gods plan = mortals to live in an Eden( Paradise) knowing only good, never sick, never without. To live forever not aging like now. That is what Gods plan began, it is still his plan. He created all things with variety for us to enjoy. His word says, he knew us before our kidneys were formed, he knows the exact number of hairs on our heads. Think about that. God could easily see us as we see little ants scurrying about. The creator of all creation thinks about us individually and wants to be our friend. He sent his son to die on our behalf's. He asks us to use our free will out of love for him to listen to his advice. Which benefits us not him. He gave us his written word. Few have bothered to read it and learn about how merciful and loving he is. His son showed us that side while he was on earth. But he also stands for justice. And those who cant be bothered to learn about him and listen to him are choosing not to enter his kingdom and gain eternal life. His name is YHWH(Jehovah) the only true God.
Will you learn to be his friend?

You know, most people do not experience being loved by being given information. I know what you are trying to convey but I will be surprised if atheists feel loved by this rather impersonal information. Being loved is a very personal experience. Information is impersonal.

I do not blame you. This sort of thing I hear from the pulpit frequently. And the audience nods their heads and pretend this information makes them feel loved. It is not very real because God does this for everyone. So it is hard to feel special and being loved is feeling special. As a child, you know you are special to your parents. They do not love you the same as they love everyone else on earth. So this sort of information makes no one feel special as it applies to everyone in the world.

And btw, Jesus taught us to call God "Father" not YHWH. When a man starts to call his father by his first name, it is a step into a less intimate relationship. Most fathers will not feel happy about their son calling them by the same word that their friends do because it DENYS the special relationship they have. It is rather an insult because it is refusing to accept him as father.

I feel loved by God because He told me that he loves me. That is how human beings feel loved. A person expresses love for them in particular.

Actually Jesus taught his Fathers name to his followers( John 17:6) and promised to keep on making his name known( John 17:26)-

6“I have manifested your name to the people whom you gave me out of the world. Yours they were, and you gave them to me, and they have kept your word. hmmmm can you please point out "Jehovah" in that sentence?

he doesn't do that by telling one direct, but through his real religion and true followers that name is loved and used.

Where does he do this? If his name, that one word, is loved, how come no one every used it???

In the Lords prayer Jesus showed all the #1 issue for him and all followers is his Fathers name.

How come he never used it then?

God put his his name in his bible over 7000 places-the wicked removed it by satans will. Thus ones religion shows who they support by the translation they use. Jesus would use a translation with his Fathers name in every one of the spots that his Father willed it-0 doubt in all creation, thus so would the religion he is the head of-0 doubt in all creation.

huh? Jesus never spoke that word nor did any of the New Testament writers use it. But I know the whole JW spiel. You see that word where it is not and worse.

Jerome who translated the Latin Vulgate in the 300,s ce told the Catholic leader that Gods name belongs in the NT.
In 2015 the divine name kjv came out with Gods name in over 200 spots of NT-Why? Because it belongs there.

I don’t believe it. The Vulgate, btw, was such a bad translation, the reformers were shocked when they got the unvarnished Greek manuscripts so even if it is true, Jerome was the worst source for that idea.

There were no originals left when the protestants translated

[Mae von H]

[Replying to kjw47 in post #1]

Not a single atheist admitted they felt loved after reading this, let alone follow Jesus. Not one.

Athiests are lost to the darkness.

Then why don't you try to communicate something that they will understand or why do you bother to write a long post that which is pointless to them.

[Mae von H]

Gods plan = mortals to live in an Eden( Paradise) knowing only good, never sick, never without. To live forever not aging like now. That is what Gods plan began, it is still his plan. He created all things with variety for us to enjoy. His word says, he knew us before our kidneys were formed, he knows the exact number of hairs on our heads. Think about that. God could easily see us as we see little ants scurrying about. The creator of all creation thinks about us individually and wants to be our friend. He sent his son to die on our behalf's. He asks us to use our free will out of love for him to listen to his advice. Which benefits us not him. He gave us his written word. Few have bothered to read it and learn about how merciful and loving he is. His son showed us that side while he was on earth. But he also stands for justice. And those who cant be bothered to learn about him and listen to him are choosing not to enter his kingdom and gain eternal life. His name is YHWH(Jehovah) the only true God.
Will you learn to be his friend?

You know, most people do not experience being loved by being given information. I know what you are trying to convey but I will be surprised if atheists feel loved by this rather impersonal information. Being loved is a very personal experience. Information is impersonal.

I do not blame you. This sort of thing I hear from the pulpit frequently. And the audience nods their heads and pretend this information makes them feel loved. It is not very real because God does this for everyone. So it is hard to feel special and being loved is feeling special. As a child, you know you are special to your parents. They do not love you the same as they love everyone else on earth. So this sort of information makes no one feel special as it applies to everyone in the world.

And btw, Jesus taught us to call God "Father" not YHWH. When a man starts to call his father by his first name, it is a step into a less intimate relationship. Most fathers will not feel happy about their son calling them by the same word that their friends do because it DENYS the special relationship they have. It is rather an insult because it is refusing to accept him as father.

I feel loved by God because He told me that he loves me. That is how human beings feel loved. A person expresses love for them in particular.

Actually Jesus taught his Fathers name to his followers( John 17:6) and promised to keep on making his name known( John 17:26)-

6“I have manifested your name to the people whom you gave me out of the world. Yours they were, and you gave them to me, and they have kept your word. hmmmm can you please point out "Jehovah" in that sentence?

he doesn't do that by telling one direct, but through his real religion and true followers that name is loved and used.

Where does he do this? If his name, that one word, is loved, how come no one every used it???

In the Lords prayer Jesus showed all the #1 issue for him and all followers is his Fathers name.

How come he never used it then?

God put his his name in his bible over 7000 places-the wicked removed it by satans will. Thus ones religion shows who they support by the translation they use. Jesus would use a translation with his Fathers name in every one of the spots that his Father willed it-0 doubt in all creation, thus so would the religion he is the head of-0 doubt in all creation.

huh? Jesus never spoke that word nor did any of the New Testament writers use it. But I know the whole JW spiel. You see that word where it is not and worse.

Jerome who translated the Latin Vulgate in the 300,s ce told the Catholic leader that Gods name belongs in the NT.
In 2015 the divine name kjv came out with Gods name in over 200 spots of NT-Why? Because it belongs there.

I don’t believe it. The Vulgate, btw, was such a bad translation, the reformers were shocked when they got the unvarnished Greek manuscripts so even if it is true, Jerome was the worst source for that idea.

There were no originals left when the protestants translated

They did not need originals. They had faithful copies untouched by the Catholics in Rome. And the world was turned rightside up after receiving those accurate pieces.

[kjw47]

[Replying to kjw47 in post #1]

Not a single atheist admitted they felt loved after reading this, let alone follow Jesus. Not one.

Athiests are lost to the darkness.

Then why don't you try to communicate something that they will understand or why do you bother to write a long post that which is pointless to them.

God handed all life for free on a silver platter--How much value is that to one? How much love involved to do that? Now he is handing out life everlasting, never sick, not aging like now, never without--How much value and love is involved in that prospect?

[kjw47]

Gods plan = mortals to live in an Eden( Paradise) knowing only good, never sick, never without. To live forever not aging like now. That is what Gods plan began, it is still his plan. He created all things with variety for us to enjoy. His word says, he knew us before our kidneys were formed, he knows the exact number of hairs on our heads. Think about that. God could easily see us as we see little ants scurrying about. The creator of all creation thinks about us individually and wants to be our friend. He sent his son to die on our behalf's. He asks us to use our free will out of love for him to listen to his advice. Which benefits us not him. He gave us his written word. Few have bothered to read it and learn about how merciful and loving he is. His son showed us that side while he was on earth. But he also stands for justice. And those who cant be bothered to learn about him and listen to him are choosing not to enter his kingdom and gain eternal life. His name is YHWH(Jehovah) the only true God.
Will you learn to be his friend?

You know, most people do not experience being loved by being given information. I know what you are trying to convey but I will be surprised if atheists feel loved by this rather impersonal information. Being loved is a very personal experience. Information is impersonal.

I do not blame you. This sort of thing I hear from the pulpit frequently. And the audience nods their heads and pretend this information makes them feel loved. It is not very real because God does this for everyone. So it is hard to feel special and being loved is feeling special. As a child, you know you are special to your parents. They do not love you the same as they love everyone else on earth. So this sort of information makes no one feel special as it applies to everyone in the world.

And btw, Jesus taught us to call God "Father" not YHWH. When a man starts to call his father by his first name, it is a step into a less intimate relationship. Most fathers will not feel happy about their son calling them by the same word that their friends do because it DENYS the special relationship they have. It is rather an insult because it is refusing to accept him as father.

I feel loved by God because He told me that he loves me. That is how human beings feel loved. A person expresses love for them in particular.

Actually Jesus taught his Fathers name to his followers( John 17:6) and promised to keep on making his name known( John 17:26)-

6“I have manifested your name to the people whom you gave me out of the world. Yours they were, and you gave them to me, and they have kept your word. hmmmm can you please point out "Jehovah" in that sentence?

he doesn't do that by telling one direct, but through his real religion and true followers that name is loved and used.

Where does he do this? If his name, that one word, is loved, how come no one every used it???

In the Lords prayer Jesus showed all the #1 issue for him and all followers is his Fathers name.

How come he never used it then?

God put his his name in his bible over 7000 places-the wicked removed it by satans will. Thus ones religion shows who they support by the translation they use. Jesus would use a translation with his Fathers name in every one of the spots that his Father willed it-0 doubt in all creation, thus so would the religion he is the head of-0 doubt in all creation.

huh? Jesus never spoke that word nor did any of the New Testament writers use it. But I know the whole JW spiel. You see that word where it is not and worse.

Jerome who translated the Latin Vulgate in the 300,s ce told the Catholic leader that Gods name belongs in the NT.
In 2015 the divine name kjv came out with Gods name in over 200 spots of NT-Why? Because it belongs there.

I don’t believe it. The Vulgate, btw, was such a bad translation, the reformers were shocked when they got the unvarnished Greek manuscripts so even if it is true, Jerome was the worst source for that idea.

There were no originals left when the protestants translated

They did not need originals. They had faithful copies untouched by the Catholics in Rome. And the world was turned rightside up after receiving those accurate pieces.

If they had accurate copies then why are Catholicism errors found in every trinity translation? Why is Gods name removed in over 7000 places where God wants it if they had accurate copies?

[Mae von H]

[Replying to kjw47 in post #1]

Not a single atheist admitted they felt loved after reading this, let alone follow Jesus. Not one.

Athiests are lost to the darkness.

Then why don't you try to communicate something that they will understand or why do you bother to write a long post that which is pointless to them.

God handed all life for free on a silver platter--How much value is that to one? How much love involved to do that? Now he is handing out life everlasting, never sick, not aging like now, never without--How much value and love is involved in that prospect?

This information doesn’t seem to impress many and um, God set up reproduction such that we can do it on our own. We don’t see that God “hands out life” but we reproduce. Telling a man that God “handed them life” and therefore loves them instead of his parents produced him is not going to appeal to anyone, Have you nothing else to give but that sort of view suitable to kindergarten?

[Mae von H]

[Replying to kjw47 in post #16]

I’m not going to debate JW teaching with you. I know it’s errors too well for your points to have any impact and like all cults, the adherents know it’s history too little. This is not the subject of this thread.

[kjw47]

[Replying to kjw47 in post #1]

Not a single atheist admitted they felt loved after reading this, let alone follow Jesus. Not one.

Athiests are lost to the darkness.

Then why don't you try to communicate something that they will understand or why do you bother to write a long post that which is pointless to them.

God handed all life for free on a silver platter--How much value is that to one? How much love involved to do that? Now he is handing out life everlasting, never sick, not aging like now, never without--How much value and love is involved in that prospect?

This information doesn’t seem to impress many and um, God set up reproduction such that we can do it on our own. We don’t see that God “hands out life” but we reproduce. Telling a man that God “handed them life” and therefore loves them instead of his parents produced him is not going to appeal to anyone, Have you nothing else to give but that sort of view suitable to kindergarten?

Without God-FIRST- creating all things the way they work you wouldn't even exist.