[Avoice]

Why do you think Jews reject the teachings of the church?

If you could pick one passage to convince them to believe Jesus is their anointed one (messiah) what would it be?

[Wootah]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #104]

Non Christians hate the thought of God humiliating himself on a cross for them.

If we were to be honest, a non Christian would find it very reasonable that a crucifixion took place. It's the decomposing body reanimating to life, plus the long dead Saints walking Jerusalem that gives pause, not this notion of a God being humiliated.

Not that they cry but that's love for you. GOD will do anything for love, even that.

If only this GOD would make itself known to mankind in a way that is different when compared to the gods you think are false. If only this god would do it for love, but alas, your words seem solely like religious platitudes sadly, not something that reality reflects.

In fairness, everything you do has been transformed by Jesus Christ. Christianity is the air we breathe. That literally is enough evidence.

Essentially you are asking God to be like the false Gods. When God makes Himself know as you are asking will be too late.

[Clownboat]

In fairness, everything you do has been transformed by Jesus Christ. Christianity is the air we breathe. That literally is enough evidence.

This is nonsensical and not true. What we have is just a religious belief that you hold. Which is fine, but pretending you speak the truth is less fine IMO. As long as you are not harming others though, believe what you want.

Essentially you are asking God to be like the false Gods.

Nope, just noticing that ALL god concepts fail to make themselves known. Your god concept included, so it is already just like the god concepts you believe are false. Why do you think your god concept is the same as all others in this regard?

When God makes Himself know as you are asking will be too late.

This is nothing but a religious scare tactic and it works much better on children. Don't forget to tell them all about the lake of fire and the gnashing of teeth! In all seriousness, why not leave this kind of thing to the terrorists? You are better than that I would think.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #106]

No you are wrong because Jews are monotheists. They don't care about your demigod version.

They reject Jesus because they don't want God to be 'like that'. The ultimate servant.

This is likely why you reject Jesus as well. Imagine all the works you do is the same as the Jews and then you find out that it doesn't count. Both Jews and JWs want their works to count but only God's work will count and it has always been 'by faith'.

Where do you get the idea that I "reject Jesus"?

And JWs don't believe that works alone will save them. It is belief in Jesus FIRST, and then works becoming to a Christian.

You reject Jesus is God. Right?
Which means that if Jesus is God you reject the idea of God being willing to humble himself to a cross. Right?

So you do add works? My works are in response to what Jesus did not in addition to what Jesus did. If your works are not enough, will Jesus's work be enough?

Yes I reject the notion that Jesus is God. He said that his Father was the only true God (John 17:3) I honor Jesus' own position on that. God would not have humbled himself to a death on a cross. God cannot die, or else everything would disappear. He is the Source of life and the originator of all things. That is why Jesus came to represent his Father, God, and he spoke and acted in his Father's name. Jesus' work is enough to save me. Works do not save anybody. Belief in Jesus comes first, then the works come to show that we believe.

[Clownboat]