Paradise on Earth

[onewithhim]

When I learned that the Bible speaks of a restored Garden of Eden and the restoration of mankind to the perfection and endless life that Adam forfeited, I was thrilled. Who doesn't want to keep living on this beautiful earth, with our loved ones, and being able to do all the things we love to do---endlessly?

If God said to you today, "When do you want to die?" would you say "now!!"? I don't think very many people would say that.

We CAN live forever here on Earth. The Bible tells us that we can.

Matthew 5:5
Psalm 37:9-11,29

[FaithWillDo]

Dear onewithhim,

You said:
I don't think that word is used at Psalm 37:10,11,29. Because it doesn't make any sense to say, "The meek shall inherit the AGE and find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace," or, "The righteous shall inherit the AGE and live on it forever." You are in error there. These verses refer to the actual earth.

It makes perfect sense when you consider the "sum of God's Word". The "meek" and the "righteous" mentioned in these verses is referring to the "heirs" (First Fruits). Their reward is life during the ages and helping Christ bring in the full harvest of mankind in the final age.

Look at this verse:

Mat 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

When properly translated, this verse reads:

Mat 25:46 And these shall go away into age enduring punishment: but the righteous into life during the ages.

It is a given that all mankind will be saved by the end of the final age but the "righteous" (heirs/First Fruits) will be blessed and receive life during the ages. In other words, their "days are shortened" and they are harvested early:

Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

The heirs/First Fruits days are shortened because they are harvested early, in this present age, and do not have to wait until the end of the final age like the rest of mankind does to be saved.

By the way, Matthew 24 is teaching on the pathway of salvation for the heirs/First Fruits. It is a end-time prophecy chapter but the end-time it is teaching on is the end-time of their old vessel (child of the devil) and the creation of their new vessel (child of God).

Back to Mat 25:46, there are many, many scriptures which teach that judgment(punishment) is a part of the pathway to salvation which lasts for an "age" and there are many verses that teach that the heirs/First Fruits are saved early, in this present age. By translating the Greek word "aionios" as everlasting/eternal, it presents numerous conflicts with scripture and the true nature & power of Christ. Also, "aionios" is the adjective form of "aion" which means an age of time. An age of time cannot also mean never-ending time. The translators created the "everlasting" definition to support their false belief in eternal punishment/hell.

In the verses you quoted above, the meek and the righteous can only be referring to the heirs/Firstfruits whose reward is "life during the ages". This understanding is in perfect harmony with the overall teaching of God's Word.

Joe

[JehovahsWitness]

JAMES 1:13 - English Standard Version

Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am being tempted by God,” for God cannot be tempted with evil, and he himself tempts no one.

God never tempts anyone as the scripture says.

Then it is impossible for God to command Adam not to sin while desiring Adam do just that . God doesn't use sin to achieve his aims, so it contradicts scripture to suggest God wanted Adam to die and used sin to achieve His desire.

God told Adam to obey because he wanted Adam to obey and live forever in his physical body in on earth. Thus Gods original purpose must have been for Adams offspring to live forever in physical bodies on this our planet earth.

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[FaithWillDo]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #1962]

Dear JehovahsWitness,
You said:
Then it is impossible for God to command Adam not to sin while desiring Adam do just that . God doesn't use sin to achieve his aims, so it contradicts scripture to suggest God wanted Adam to die and used sin to achieve His desire.

Scripture clearly says that God uses "sin/evil" to achieve His good and righteous purposes. Here are just a few verses that I quickly found:

Rom 5:20 But law came in, in order that the offence might abound; but where sin abounded grace has overabounded.

2 Rom 9:21 Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor?

Rom 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

Judg 9:23 Then God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men of Shechem; and the men of Shechem dealt treacherously with Abimelech:

1 Sam 16:14 But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him.

2 Sam 12:11 Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun.

2 Sam 24:1 And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

1 Chron 21:1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

Job 2:10 But he said to her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh. We have also received good from God, and should we not receive evil? In all this Job did not sin with his lips.

Prov 16:4 The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

Ecc 1:13 An experience of evil God has given to the sons of humanity to humble them by it.

Ecc 7:13 Consider the work of God: for who can make that straight, which he hath made crooked?

Isa 19:14 The LORD hath mingled a perverse spirit in the midst thereof: and they have caused Egypt to err in every work thereof, as a drunken man staggereth in his vomit.

Isa 45:5-7 I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else. I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Isa 54:16 Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy.

Lam 3:38 Out of the mouth of the Most High doth not there proceed evil and good?

Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?

In light of these verses, you should rethink your understanding of God and how He works in this creation.

Joe

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #1962]

Scripture clearly says that God uses "sin/evil" to achieve His good and righteous purposes.

None of those scriptures say God uses sin to achieve his purpose.

ISAIAH 59:2 New Living Translation

It’s your sins that have cut you off from God. Because of your sins, he has turned away and will not listen anymore.

To argue God's original purpose was that Adam sinned so that he (Adam) would die, puts God at the origin of something he hates (sin). To command Adam not to eat while working behind the scenes to make sure he ate would make God the worst kind of hypocrite.

God is not the originator of sin, he does not use sin to achieve his aims, he did not want Adam to sin and die, and thus we can conclude life on earth in a physical body was what the Creator originally purposed for humans.

[FaithWillDo]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #1964]

Dear JehovahsWitness,
The scripture clearly says that God uses sin/evil to accomplish His "will":

Acts 4:26-28 The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ. For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together, For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done.

Read this verse carefully. God the Father caused "Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel" to do what His "counsel determined before to be done". Don't you believe it was sinful for those mentioned in the verse to crucify Christ? But they did so because the hand of God and His counsel determined that it should be done. God caused them to sin to accomplish His "will".

This is no different than God causing Adam to sin to accomplish His purposes, too.

Dan 4:35 And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing; and he doeth according to his will in the army of the heavens, and among the inhabitants of the earth; and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?

There could be no greater event in history than Christ going to the cross and it happened because God caused "Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel" to sin and murder Him. It was God's counsel that He determined beforehand that it should be done.

Paul even said this:
1Cor 2:7-8 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

The princes of the world who crucified Jesus are "Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel". The Word of God is taught in a "mystery" so that the truth of who Christ was would remain hidden.
If they had known the truth, they would have never crucified Christ. But since it was God's "will" for Christ to be crucified, God kept the truth hidden from them so that they would sin. God caused it all to happen.

Joe

[onewithhim]

[Replying to FaithWillDo in post #1965]

I think it would behoove you to goback over what JehovahsWitness has said in their last couple of posts. I agree wholeheartedly with that. Your interpretation of Scripture conflicts with what JW presented there, and scriptures don't contradict themselves.

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[FaithWillDo]

[Replying to FaithWillDo in post #1965]

I think it would behoove you to goback over what JehovahsWitness has said in their last couple of posts. I agree wholeheartedly with that. Your interpretation of Scripture conflicts with what JW presented there, and scriptures don't contradict themselves.

Dear onewithhim,
I responded to what JehovahsWitness said in his posts. The verses which He presented do not support what He stated. I explained all that to him.

The "paradigm" you are using to understand scripture is "of this world". You are still seeing Jesus in the flesh. When a believer receives the Latter Rain of the Spirit, it causes great earthquakes, lightning, thunder and trumpets. It is a monumental event which occurs "within" the person. It changes their "paradigm" which is "of this world" to a new "paradigm" that comes directly from Christ. They put off their carnal mind and put on the mind of Christ. This happens solely by the work of Christ at the time they receive the Latter Rain (second coming of Christ).

This event is described in Revelation chapter 18 and the first 6 verses of chapter 19. Once this event happens, the marriage supper of the Lamb occurs and the second coming of Christ occurs within the believer who has just been converted and "born again".

Now, within the believer, the sun is darkened and the moon is turned to blood. They no longer receive their "truth" from this natural world. They now receive it spiritually from the "brightness" of Christ's appearing to them.

Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Acts 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:

Like the verses in Rev ch. 18 & 19, these verses above are teaching on the same event. This is conversion. It is the destruction of a child of the devil (our created spiritual state) and the birth of a child of God.

Joe

[onewithhim]

[Replying to FaithWillDo in post #1965]

I think it would behoove you to goback over what JehovahsWitness has said in their last couple of posts. I agree wholeheartedly with that. Your interpretation of Scripture conflicts with what JW presented there, and scriptures don't contradict themselves.

Dear onewithhim,
I responded to what JehovahsWitness said in his posts. The verses which He presented do not support what He stated. I explained all that to him.

The "paradigm" you are using to understand scripture is "of this world". You are still seeing Jesus in the flesh.

Any even surface reading of my posts will reveal that I do not consider Jesus still in the flesh. He is a powerful spirit person in heaven at his Father's right hand. "He is the King of those who rule as kings and Lord of those who rule as lords, the one alone having immortality, who dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see." (I Timothy 6:15,16)

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[FaithWillDo]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #1968]

Dear onewithhim,

You said:
Any even surface reading of my posts will reveal that I do not consider Jesus still in the flesh. He is a powerful spirit person in heaven at his Father's right hand. "He is the King of those who rule as kings and Lord of those who rule as lords, the one alone having immortality, who dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see." (I Timothy 6:15,16)


Much of what I present to you is in Christ's spiritual language which you are not understanding. When I say that you are seeing Christ in the flesh, I mean that your understanding of God's Word (Christ) is carnal (of this world) and not spiritual (Christ's spiritual language). The teachings of Christ in scripture are given to us in His spiritual language:

1Cor 2:13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

Isa 28: 10-12 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: 11 For with stammering lips and ANOTHER TONGUE will he speak to this people. 12 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

Christ teaches His truth "here a little, and there a little" and He speaks in words that have different meanings than what man's wisdom teaches. Christ's language is spiritual language which utilizes the Hebrew and Greek languages. That is how Christ keeps His truth hidden from mankind but reveals it to His Elect (after they have been converted). The truth of scripture is written exclusively for His Elect who have been given "eyes that can see". This spiritual understanding is given at the time of the Latter Rain (conversion) and is what destroys the "man of sin" whom each believer has become. The brightness of Christ's appearing (spiritual understanding of the Word) is what destroys our "seeing Christ in the flesh".

Here is a short example where Christ is teaching on spiritual understanding and when it is given to a person:

Mark 8:15-21 And he charged them, saying, Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod. 16 And they reasoned among themselves, saying, It is because we have no bread. 17 And when Jesus knew it, he saith unto them, Why reason ye, because ye have no bread? perceive ye not yet, neither understand? have ye your heart yet hardened? 18 Having eyes, see ye not? and having ears, hear ye not? and do ye not remember? 19 When I brake the five loaves among five thousand, how many baskets full of fragments took ye up? They say unto him, Twelve. 20 And when the seven among four thousand, how many baskets full of fragments took ye up? And they said, Seven. 21 And he said unto them, How is it that ye do not understand?

In these verses, Christ is giving His disciples a lesson on spiritual language - His language. At this point in time (before Pentecost), the disciples have not received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit (Latter Rain) and were spiritually blind. They simply could not understand what Christ was teaching them. After Christ’s short lesson, He ends it by asking them this question: “How is it that ye do not understand”? No response from the Apostles is recorded in scripture. However, Christ answers His own question in the very next four verses.

Mark 8:22-25 And he cometh to Bethsaida; and they bring a blind man unto him, and besought him to touch him. 23 And he took the blind man by the hand, and led him out of the town; and when he had spit on his eyes, and put his hands upon him, he asked him if he saw ought. 24 And he looked up, and said, I see men as trees, walking. 25 After that he put his hands again upon his eyes, and made him look up: and he was restored, and saw every man clearly.

Since Christ is the Word of God, He teaches us not only through His words which are recorded in scripture but also by the things He did. In answering the question that He proposed to the disciples in verse 21, He goes to Bethsaida and gives us His answer in "type" by healing a blind man. This "type" is the same "type" which Christ uses with the Old Testament events to teach His spiritual truths.

In verses 23, Christ leads a blind man out of the city. Once outside the city, Christ places spit on his eyes and touches him with His hands. These actions occur as the blind man is looking down which symbolizes the carnal aspect of His healing (seeing Christ in the flesh). The “spit” (water) symbolizes the blind man receiving the Early Rain of the Spirit with its accompanying vision (understanding). This is the same time when an unbeliever is "called out from the world" and becomes a Christian. After Christ asks him what he could see, the blind man looks up and says that he could see men walking as trees. "Walking as trees" is a spiritual symbol for Called Out believers of which the blind man is now one. The man’s blindness was not total any longer but he was still very near-sighted. This “first healing” of the blind man reflects our spiritual condition when we first enter the Church. At that time, we are left carnally minded and spiritually near-sighted. Peter says this condition is the same as being blind:

2Pet 4:19 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.

In the final verse of the story, Christ lays His hands upon the man’s eyes again but this time, Christ has the man “look up”. This second healing represents the Latter Rain of the Spirit (second coming of Christ) when true spiritual vision is given to the believer. The man’s upward gaze represents this spiritual aspect of the healing in contrast to the carnal aspect when the blind man was looking down at the earth. From that moment onward, we know that the blind man is a “type” of a Called and Chosen believer.

Have you ever wondered why God's Word is so difficult to understand? If He was really working to save the world at this time, you would think He would make scripture very clear and easy to understand. But He is not working to save the world in this age. He is ONLY bringing in His harvest of First Fruits (the Elect). For all others, Christ will remain "veiled" (hidden from their understanding). As I have said, the book of Revelation (the book of the Unveiling of Christ) is about the pathway that leads to salvation for each of His Elect. In the book, it teaches in many chapters about what happens at a person's moment of conversion. This is the point when Christ is "UNveiled". The book has nothing to do with outward coming world events as most Christians teach and believe. That is why the book itself says the reader must keep the saying of the book. If they don't keep the sayings, they will not be saved in this age and they will die in their sins. But because Christ remains veiled to ALL called out believers after they receive the Early Rain of the Spirit, over 2000 different churches/sects have been created, all with their own version of the truth of Christ. None of them are correct.

Christ also said this:
Matt 13:33 Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.

As I have said, all the parables which start off with "the Kingdom of Heaven is like" are teaching on certain aspects of the pathway to salvation (here a little and there a little). These teachings include both the path that leads to the wide gate and the path that leads to the narrow gate. We all must travel both paths in this age if we are going to be saved:

Matt 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

To be saved, we must consume the true "bread" from heaven. But along the wide pathway we all must travel first, Christ (via Satan) will give us "leavened bread" to eat. And since mankind lives "by every word" that Christ speaks, we will ALL eat this leavened bread. We eat the leavened bread after we are first called out from the world and enter the "church". We eat it because the leaven (lies from Satan) is "hidden" in the bread. Because Satan masquerades as Christ and because we remain spiritually blind, we accept this leavened bread from Satan & his ministers in the church and willingly consume it thinking that it is the true bread from heaven. The leavened bread is pleasing to our carnal nature which prefers "works" over "faith":

Luke 5:39 No man also having drunk old wine straightway desireth new: for he saith, The old is better.

The "old wine" represents the Old Covenant of Law (man's works) and the "new wine" represents the New Covenant of Faith. Our carnal nature prefers the old wine of works.

Once we consume the leavened bread, it poisons us. In other words, we "fall away" because we start mixing "works" (old wine) with "faith" (new wine). Once we do this, we spiritually die because "no man can serve two masters". This is how Satan kills the saints. Even the Elect travel this portion of the pathway after they are first given the Early Rain and are called out from the world. We all "live" (salvation) by EVERY word Christ speaks.

Lam 3:38 Out of the mouth of the Most High doth not there proceed evil and good?

Paul says once we have fallen away, we cannot be renewed by repentance. The ONLY solution is for Christ to come to us a second time and give us the Latter Rain. The Latter Rain will open our eyes to the truth of Christ which will destroy the "man of sin" we have become under Satan's influence. This is the second coming of Christ commonly taught in scripture and it is the moment of conversion. After this event, we will begin to consume the true bread from heaven and travel the narrow path that leads to the Kingdom of Heaven.

Unless a person as been "chosen from the foundation of the world", Christ will not come to them a second time in this age. They will die in their sins. However, I always encourage everyone I speak with to pray for Christ's coming and gifts He brings at that time because no one knows if they have been chosen by Christ or not. I didn't know until I was 44 years old, at which time Christ appeared to me with the Latter Rain. Here is a copy of my conversion testimony below. I posted it in the forum earlier but if you have not read it, I recommend you doing so.

Conversion Testimony of Joe & Julie Edwards
October 8th, 2005

Two years ago, my wife Julie and I had been without a church home for 4 years after having moved to Fayetteville, AR. We visited many churches during that time (some for 3 or 4 months) but we never could find any that seemed to have a real love for the Lord. After our own personal study of the scripture, we decided that we wanted to be baptized in the Name of Jesus instead of the Father, Son & Holy Spirit as we had done many years ago. We could not find any churches that would baptize this way until we talked to a friend (Rusty Newman) who went to a Oneness Pentecostal church in Bentonville, AR. We decided to go and be baptized there even though we were from a Church of Christ/Baptist type background. We studied in the scripture about receiving the Holy Spirit and the gifts which the Spirit gives.

Four weeks later, my wife was filled with the Spirit at home and started speaking in tongues. It was a very powerful experience with her. She was constantly filled for about two weeks, speaking in tongues nearly every time she opened her mouth. She spent a great deal of time on her knees in tears speaking in tongues as she prayed. We didn't really know what to think of it. Like I said, we were from a church background that denies tongues. We were not children either, I was 43 and she was 37. We really were amazed with her experience. A few weeks went by and she would still go on her knees in prayer every day and the Spirit would speak through her in tongues until one day as she spoke, the words changed into English. We soon realized that she was prophesying in the Spirit. We had never even heard of this gift before and were greatly amazed by it. Over the next year & a half, she has received "words" (that is what we call them) from the Lord more than two dozen times. One of the words she received told us (me & her) that the Lord had great treasure for us if we would continue seeking him.

I will quote it to you:

"I am. I know your heart. Seek Me and I will be found. Look deep into My Word. The truth is not to be given by man but only revealed by Me. It is for those whose hearts desire it above the treasures of this world. You must give up all and treasure you will receive. I am the truth and the only way. I am the Lord."

Julie received this "word" in July 2004. I know what you are thinking - I wouldn't have believed it is real either if someone were to tell me about it happening to someone else. I was not sure whether to believe it or not for a long time. But after a few months, I did come to believe it was really from the Lord because the things she prayed over and received "words" concerning, would come to pass just as she prophesied.
Then four weeks ago, my journey to the Lord took a sudden and giant step! I saw a picture on foxnews.com of a young Muslim boy (age 12) who had just lived through the recent Pakistan earthquake. For some reason, my heart for this boy was really going out to him. I have rarely ever felt this way before by a news story. That evening in prayer at home, the image of the boy came back to me and I grieved for him as I prayed. I was not grieving for him because of the earthquake but because I thought that he was going to be eternally lost and that he really doesn't have a realistic chance of being saved. I couldn't understand why I had been blessed with the opportunity to know the Lord and why he has virtually no opportunity since he lives in a Muslim country. I asked the Lord why this was the case. I was so confused and couldn't understand why he was most likely going to hell just because of where he had been born. Almost three days had passed since I had prayed that prayer and I had not given it much more thought. But on that third day (Friday, Oct. 7, 2005) I had some extra time at work so I decided to study "end-time" prophecy on the internet (my great passion). I went to Google and searched on a couple of words (I can't remember them now) and a list of websites came up. I looked through the list and noticed Ray Smith's website “bible-truths.com”. I thought it looked interesting so I clicked on it. By the next morning, I had read his Lake of Fire Series for a few hours and was now on part four. I couldn't believe what I was reading but I felt compelled to continue reading it anyway. Later that same morning (Saturday, Oct. 8, 2005), I took a break from my reading to pray about it. I prayed for the Lord to open my eyes if what Ray Smith had written was true and went back to reading. I was still on the fourth part when the Lord suddenly opened my eyes. I became overjoyed at the truth the Lord had just revealed to me! It was joy like I had never felt before in my life. It was at that point that I remembered my prayer from earlier in the week concerning the Muslim boy. Immediately, I knew that this new truth which the Lord had just shown me was the answer to that prayer. I was overjoyed again. I then decided to find Julie (she was in the kitchen) and share with her what the Lord had just revealed to me. I explained to her what I had been reading and pointed out the supporting scriptures. Within 30 minutes, she was filled with the Spirit and began praising the Lord because of the new knowledge of the truth that He had revealed to her, too.

The last 4 weeks Julie and I have studied scripture every day and have been trying to share the new truths with our friends at church. But cutting through the details, we ended up leaving the church for good a few days ago. No one there could receive the truth that the Lord had revealed to us. In just four short weeks, we had learned so much from our studies that nearly everything we knew before as “truth”, we now knew to be lies. I could hardly believe how spiritually blind we were just a few short weeks before. Now from scripture, we have come to understand what had just happened in both our lives - the Lord had appeared unto us a second time, baptized us with His Spirit (Latter Rain) and healed our spiritual vision. We found the "treasure" mentioned in Julie’s prophesy from about a year & a half ago. We didn't even remember her receiving that "word" until I stumbled across it a few days ago from an old email I had sent to a family member. When I reminded her of it and read it to her, she was filled with tears of joy again.

The next day, Julie received another "word" from the Lord:

"I will answer. I have shown you the truth in My Word. It is only revealed to those who seek it. It is by faith. It is for those who seek to know Me. I will bring all before My judgment, which is righteous and true. I will complete all things as I have committed to do by My Word. The things of the Spirit cannot be understood by man, even if I reveal it. It will be as I have spoken it. Some will hear and not believe. Some will hear and search but will desire the favor of men more than Me. Some will hear and seek understanding, and by faith I will show them. These will be few. These few will rejoice as one who has found great treasure! Keep seeking, remain faithful and I will give abundant blessings. You ask of Yahweh. I Am that I Am, come to men to show them the Light. Of the One, from and in the One when all things are completed as it was established before time. All will be brought to life in the One. It will not then be needful to show man God or give man His Spirit. Man cannot receive more because he cannot understand".

Several weeks after receiving the Latter Rain of the Spirit, Julie ceased receiving “words” from the Lord. She has not received any since that time. I believe it is because of what this verse teaches:

1Cor 13:8-10 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.


I encourage you to pray for Christ to come to you and open your eyes. He is the giver of "good" gifts.

Joe

[JehovahsWitness]

Like the verses in Rev ch. 18 & 19, these verses above are teaching on the same event. This is conversion.

Revelation 18 in symbolic terms speaks of the destruction of false religion ( "Baylon the Great"). "The marriage of the lamb " is when all the 144, 000 members of Gods heavenly government finally get to heaven. (Revelation 19).

Under Christs direction these (144,000) will then lead the angels to destroy Satan's system and usher obedient humans into a new world (not a new literal planet they will still be living on this our planet earth) but a new human society where those on this earth will live with no more pain or suffering.

Humanity will at long last return to the conditions enjoyed in the garden of eden! Good news don't you think?




JEHOVAH'S WITNESS





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Will there be a new earthly society or a new planet?
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What is God's Kingdom?
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