onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:24 am
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Just curious----what are the other groups that believe Jesus is Michael? I have never heard of that. What evidence do you have that "all teach different details" about the "doctrine."? Anyway, the Michael believers don't claim to be unified. If they exist, as you say, they would all be of different opinions. You're right, that group would not be unified, as the trinity believers are not as well. Jehovah's Witnesses are of the same mind on that doctrine.
It doesn't make any sense at all to compare the trinity doctrine with the teaching that Michael is Jesus. It is true that there are others, individuals or groups (like adventism) who teach that Michael is Jesus, but there is not any diference on that teaching no matter who is the one who believe on it, all say the same and only thing related to that:
the Archangel Michael is Jesus and that's it.
At the contrary, we can find selfcalled trinitarians who say Jehovah is Jesus and others who say Jehovah is not Jesus, or some who say the Father and Jesus are co-equal, and others who say there is subordination among them, some say that when Jesus was a human he was not God and others say he was God even when human, some say prehuman-Jesus was just a non personal internal
part of God and became personal only when he was born as human, and others say he was an independent person even before becoming human, etc.
It is obvious that comparing both doctrines is ridiculous, but that forumer is always trying to change topic to accuse JWs of something ... You can see on his posts that in a topic about the trinity he talks about the expulsion, about eating the emblems in the Commemoration, about Michael, etc ... because what he is looking for is for chances to fight against JWs no matter how. He even has an ex-JWs website (apostate) as his contact info in his profile, but he is feigning interest in other topics than showing his hatred against us. If his
interest on those diferent topics were genuine, he would be opening threads about each of them, but he does not.
Matt. 12:33 “Either YOU people make the tree fine and its fruit fine or make the tree rotten and its fruit rotten; for by its fruit the tree is known. 34 Offspring of vipers, how can YOU speak good things, when YOU are wicked? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. 35 The good man out of his good treasure sends out good things, whereas the wicked man out of his wicked treasure sends out wicked things. 36 I tell YOU that every unprofitable saying that men speak, they will render an account concerning it on Judgment Day; 37 for by your words you will be declared righteous, and by your words you will be condemned.”