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What about the whole "don't be gay" part?brianbbs67 wrote: The basic message of the whole God thing, is be good do good, receive Good. It only has worked for me 50 years.
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Good is defined as doing as God is or does, says or is against. Sin is breaking His law(written or natural). So that is covered. He seems to be against it strongly as it violates the purpose he designed us for. However, it is like any other sin. Some will commit it and it can be forgiven. Staying in a sinful state after repeated forgiveness is subject to harsher judgement according to the book. I don't believe anyone is born that way, though. Usually involves molestation at an early age or poor moral teaching at home.Justin108 wrote:What about the whole "don't be gay" part?brianbbs67 wrote: The basic message of the whole God thing, is be good do good, receive Good. It only has worked for me 50 years.
Post #44
So if God said "raping children is good", it would then be defined as good?brianbbs67 wrote:Good is defined as doing as God is or does, says or is against.Justin108 wrote:What about the whole "don't be gay" part?brianbbs67 wrote: The basic message of the whole God thing, is be good do good, receive Good. It only has worked for me 50 years.
brianbbs67 wrote: I don't believe anyone is born that way, though.
Twin studies have confirmed there is in fact a genetic aspect to homosexuality.
Do you have anything to back that up?brianbbs67 wrote: Usually involves molestation at an early age or poor moral teaching at home.
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1 No, as HE is against that, vehemently.Justin108 wrote:So if God said "raping children is good", it would then be defined as good?brianbbs67 wrote:Good is defined as doing as God is or does, says or is against.Justin108 wrote:What about the whole "don't be gay" part?brianbbs67 wrote: The basic message of the whole God thing, is be good do good, receive Good. It only has worked for me 50 years.
brianbbs67 wrote: I don't believe anyone is born that way, though.
Twin studies have confirmed there is in fact a genetic aspect to homosexuality.
Do you have anything to back that up?brianbbs67 wrote: Usually involves molestation at an early age or poor moral teaching at home.
2 Those studies are biased and even if true, that would only mean a defect one must overcome. Like genetic alcoholism.
3 Just life experience of others. Its my opinion. I am not going to research it right now, but i think its common knowledge that abused children tend to carry on the abuse.
Post #46
Do you know what "if" means?brianbbs67 wrote:1 No, as HE is against that, vehemently.So if God said "raping children is good", it would then be defined as good?
How are they biased? Do you even know how these studies were done? Or are you just assuming they're biased because you don't like the outcome?brianbbs67 wrote: 2 Those studies are biased
It would also mean that it was God's mistake, not theirs. So a gay guy is being punished because God messed up his genes?brianbbs67 wrote:and even if true, that would only mean a defect one must overcome. Like genetic alcoholism.
Ok so it doesn't mean much then.brianbbs67 wrote: 3 Just life experience of others. Its my opinion.
Having consensual homosexual sex is not "abuse".brianbbs67 wrote:I am not going to research it right now, but i think its common knowledge that abused children tend to carry on the abuse.
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Post #47
[Replying to post 46 by Justin108]
I could provide lots of scripture that shows its wrong behavoir and abomination to God. But, I don't think it would matter to you. You want to justify your choice to do such and their is none in the scripture as written. But, as I said before, it is only another sin for which we will be judged one day. I do not know for sure how that will be done. I just believe it is wrong and against nature and not genetic. If you do not, then problem solved for you.
I could provide lots of scripture that shows its wrong behavoir and abomination to God. But, I don't think it would matter to you. You want to justify your choice to do such and their is none in the scripture as written. But, as I said before, it is only another sin for which we will be judged one day. I do not know for sure how that will be done. I just believe it is wrong and against nature and not genetic. If you do not, then problem solved for you.
Post #48
Justify my choice? I'm not gay.brianbbs67 wrote: [Replying to post 46 by Justin108]
I could provide lots of scripture that shows its wrong behavoir and abomination to God. But, I don't think it would matter to you. You want to justify your choice to do such and their is none in the scripture as written.
I see you just ignored each of my questions so I'll post them again.
1. If God said "raping children is good", it would then be defined as good?
2. How are the twin studies on the genetic origin of homosexuality biased? Do you know how these studies were done?
3. If homosexuality is genetic, why does God punish people for his own mistake of making people gay?
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Post #49
1. God would not do that to begin with, so the question is invalid.(Sodom and Gemorrah)Justin108 wrote:Justify my choice? I'm not gay.brianbbs67 wrote: [Replying to post 46 by Justin108]
I could provide lots of scripture that shows its wrong behavoir and abomination to God. But, I don't think it would matter to you. You want to justify your choice to do such and their is none in the scripture as written.
I see you just ignored each of my questions so I'll post them again.
1. If God said "raping children is good", it would then be defined as good?
2. How are the twin studies on the genetic origin of homosexuality biased? Do you know how these studies were done?
3. If homosexuality is genetic, why does God punish people for his own mistake of making people gay?
2. I don't know enough to render judgement. Other than Homosexuals are an aberration . Not a norm.
3. If pigs could fly...no need to deal with what ifs that aren't.
Post #50
Do you not understand the concept of a hypothetical situation?brianbbs67 wrote:1. God would not do that to begin with, so the question is invalid.(Sodom and Gemorrah)1. If God said "raping children is good", it would then be defined as good?
IF God said "raping children is good", would it be defined as good?
Nice Red Herring. The question isn't whether it is a norm, the question was whether it is genetic.brianbbs67 wrote:2. I don't know enough to render judgement. Other than Homosexuals are an aberration . Not a norm.2. How are the twin studies on the genetic origin of homosexuality biased? Do you know how these studies were done?
And so what if it isn't a norm? Are all abnormal things wrong? Being left handed is abnormal. Are left handed people immoral now because they're abnormal? Having red hair and freckles is an abnormality. Is that immoral too?
The twin studies, the studies you choose to ignore, prove that there is a genetic component to homosexuality. This is not a "if pigs could fly" scenario. This is reality. But of course, you apparently choose to ignore reality in favor of confirmation bias.brianbbs67 wrote:3. If pigs could fly...no need to deal with what ifs that aren't.3. If homosexuality is genetic, why does God punish people for his own mistake of making people gay?