The Thousand Years Millennium
The word 'Millennium' doesn't appear in the Bible, although it is used throughout the world to describe the 1000 year millennial reign after the SECOND coming of Christ which we find in Revelation 20:2-7.
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So there is no mistaking that this time period is going to be a 1000 years. But when does it start? The popular mainstream teaching is after the church is "rapture," the saints spent 7 years in heaven with Jesus while the great tribulation happens on earth. Then after the 7 years, they believe the church comes back to earth with Jesus where He will reign from Israel for a 1000 years. The rapture teaching is false. The seven years tribulation teaching is false and of course, this teaching of Jesus reigning on earth for 1000 years while the wicked continue to live is also false. So what is the truth? Let's find out.
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What is the 1000 Years Millennium?
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Post #71[Replying to post 67 by Pipiripi]
You cited a passage for me to read and be instructed.
It got me thinking about that, and prompts me to ask you to read a passage and question you on it.
The passage s 2 Peter 3:3-13.
My question is this:
Why is there no millennium there?
You cited a passage for me to read and be instructed.
It got me thinking about that, and prompts me to ask you to read a passage and question you on it.
The passage s 2 Peter 3:3-13.
My question is this:
Why is there no millennium there?
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Post #72Because it isn't Peter God has revealed the revelations. And the time that John has released Peter was all ready dead. You see following the Bible story biblical we can give answered biblically. Ask more questions? I love talking with people who can meditate on the words of God.Checkpoint wrote: [Replying to post 67 by Pipiripi]
You cited a passage for me to read and be instructed.
It got me thinking about that, and prompts me to ask you to read a passage and question you on it.
The passage s 2 Peter 3:3-13.
My question is this:
Why is there no millennium there?
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Post #73That is an answer that appears to satisfy you, but I do not consider it to be a biblical one.Pipiripi wrote:Because it isn't Peter God has revealed the revelations. And the time that John has released Peter was all ready dead. You see following the Bible story biblical we can give answered biblically. Ask more questions? I love talking with people who can meditate on the words of God.Checkpoint wrote: [Replying to post 67 by Pipiripi]
You cited a passage for me to read and be instructed.
It got me thinking about that, and prompts me to ask you to read a passage and question you on it.
The passage s 2 Peter 3:3-13.
My question is this:
Why is there no millennium there?
Peter told it as it was and as it will be.
So did John, in Revelation, in vision, and with much more detail, but mostly in symbols.
Scripture interprets scripture.
We need to debate this one!
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Post #74Okay name it and we go together about the symbols and see where till were God lead us.😉Checkpoint wrote:That is an answer that appears to satisfy you, but I do not consider it to be a biblical one.Pipiripi wrote:Because it isn't Peter God has revealed the revelations. And the time that John has released Peter was all ready dead. You see following the Bible story biblical we can give answered biblically. Ask more questions? I love talking with people who can meditate on the words of God.Checkpoint wrote: [Replying to post 67 by Pipiripi]
You cited a passage for me to read and be instructed.
It got me thinking about that, and prompts me to ask you to read a passage and question you on it.
The passage s 2 Peter 3:3-13.
My question is this:
Why is there no millennium there?
Peter told it as it was and as it will be.
So did John, in Revelation, in vision, and with much more detail, but mostly in symbols.
Scripture interprets scripture.
We need to debate this one!
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Post #75This little debate is not about symbols, or at least not yet.Pipiripi wrote:Okay name it and we go together about the symbols and see where till were God lead us.😉Checkpoint wrote:That is an answer that appears to satisfy you, but I do not consider it to be a biblical one.Pipiripi wrote:Because it isn't Peter God has revealed the revelations. And the time that John has released Peter was all ready dead. You see following the Bible story biblical we can give answered biblically. Ask more questions? I love talking with people who can meditate on the words of God.Checkpoint wrote: [Replying to post 67 by Pipiripi]
You cited a passage for me to read and be instructed.
It got me thinking about that, and prompts me to ask you to read a passage and question you on it.
The passage s 2 Peter 3:3-13.
My question is this:
Why is there no millennium there?
Peter told it as it was and as it will be.
So did John, in Revelation, in vision, and with much more detail, but mostly in symbols.
Scripture interprets scripture.
We need to debate this one!
It is about the absence or silence about any "thousand years", in the writings, not only of Peter, but also of Paul, and indeed all the Old Testament.
And it is nowhere in the teachings of Jesus.
I think this situation is highly significant, and instructive.
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Post #76Did you know not that John was the last apostles? The book of Revelation is also the last in the Bible. Let we go together in Revelation 20. I have write my believed and proofed that is biblical. So proof me where is the mistake.Checkpoint wrote:This little debate is not about symbols, or at least not yet.Pipiripi wrote:Okay name it and we go together about the symbols and see where till were God lead us.😉Checkpoint wrote:That is an answer that appears to satisfy you, but I do not consider it to be a biblical one.Pipiripi wrote:Because it isn't Peter God has revealed the revelations. And the time that John has released Peter was all ready dead. You see following the Bible story biblical we can give answered biblically. Ask more questions? I love talking with people who can meditate on the words of God.Checkpoint wrote: [Replying to post 67 by Pipiripi]
You cited a passage for me to read and be instructed.
It got me thinking about that, and prompts me to ask you to read a passage and question you on it.
The passage s 2 Peter 3:3-13.
My question is this:
Why is there no millennium there?
Peter told it as it was and as it will be.
So did John, in Revelation, in vision, and with much more detail, but mostly in symbols.
Scripture interprets scripture.
We need to debate this one!
It is about the absence or silence about any "thousand years", in the writings, not only of Peter, but also of Paul, and indeed all the Old Testament.
And it is nowhere in the teachings of Jesus.
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Just write the name Jim Staley you see and understand the Hebrews roots. Jesus says dig!!Checkpoint wrote: [Replying to post 62 by Pipiripi]
Thank you, but debates or long quotes or stories are not for me.And if you have time, I really wont you to see the debate between Jim Staley And Chris Rosebrough. It is long, but very interesting.
My concentration span has become much shorter than it used to be.
If you think readers may be interested, I suggest you post the link.
Re: What is the 1000 Years Millennium?
Post #78[Replying to post 1 by Pipiripi]
the number 1000/thousand appears 99 times... the word " millennium " does, in modern day bibles.
Here in lies the great problem, man second guessing Gods Word. I believe in the word of GOD, and Gods word ONLY!! This has opened up many formerly misunderstood messages..
One example is this...The men form the " East " visited Yeshua ( His REAL Hebrew Name ) at His HOME approximately 2 years after His Birth. The shepherds only came to worship Yeshua at the time of His both in the stable, not so the men from the East.
HIs name is in Matthew 1 at vss 18+
Also The OT AND the 4 Gospel Books are all given too Israel and not to the ( not yet formed/established ) Messianic Communities as in, The Church..
Gods word tells us; Mat 15:24 He said, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Isra'el."
Here in we see just how easy it can be to mis understand the Scriptures..
Blessings;
the number 1000/thousand appears 99 times... the word " millennium " does, in modern day bibles.
Here in lies the great problem, man second guessing Gods Word. I believe in the word of GOD, and Gods word ONLY!! This has opened up many formerly misunderstood messages..
One example is this...The men form the " East " visited Yeshua ( His REAL Hebrew Name ) at His HOME approximately 2 years after His Birth. The shepherds only came to worship Yeshua at the time of His both in the stable, not so the men from the East.
HIs name is in Matthew 1 at vss 18+
Also The OT AND the 4 Gospel Books are all given too Israel and not to the ( not yet formed/established ) Messianic Communities as in, The Church..
Gods word tells us; Mat 15:24 He said, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Isra'el."
Here in we see just how easy it can be to mis understand the Scriptures..
Blessings;
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Post #79[Replying to post 75 by Pipiripi]
[b[I posted to you[/b]
This little debate is not about symbols, or at least not yet.
It is about the absence or silence about any "thousand years", in the writings, not only of Peter, but also of Paul, and indeed all the Old Testament.
And it is nowhere in the teachings of Jesus.
You answered
On the other hand, what I have just pointed out, challenged me to revisit the views I held on the millennium at that time, many years ago.
I soon became convinced of the validity of the spiritual view and began advocating it in place of the literal chronological view I had been enthusiastically believing.
[b[I posted to you[/b]
This little debate is not about symbols, or at least not yet.
It is about the absence or silence about any "thousand years", in the writings, not only of Peter, but also of Paul, and indeed all the Old Testament.
And it is nowhere in the teachings of Jesus.
You answered
That fact is not in the least convincing.Did you know not that John was the last apostles? The book of Revelation is also the last in the Bible.
On the other hand, what I have just pointed out, challenged me to revisit the views I held on the millennium at that time, many years ago.
I soon became convinced of the validity of the spiritual view and began advocating it in place of the literal chronological view I had been enthusiastically believing.
Re: What is the 1000 Years Millennium?
Post #80My friend if you want to know more what has happened after Jesus dead, and after the acts of the apostles, and then you can read the book of Hebrews. That book take the OT. And the NT show you exactly how all the prophecies has complete in their times. Today, all Christians who KEEP God's Commandments and have the faith of Jesus are SPIRITUAL ISRAEL.TripleZ wrote: [Replying to post 1 by Pipiripi]
the number 1000/thousand appears 99 times... the word " millennium " does, in modern day bibles.
Here in lies the great problem, man second guessing Gods Word. I believe in the word of GOD, and Gods word ONLY!! This has opened up many formerly misunderstood messages..
One example is this...The men form the " East " visited Yeshua ( His REAL Hebrew Name ) at His HOME approximately 2 years after His Birth. The shepherds only came to worship Yeshua at the time of His both in the stable, not so the men from the East.
HIs name is in Matthew 1 at vss 18+
Also The OT AND the 4 Gospel Books are all given too Israel and not to the ( not yet formed/established ) Messianic Communities as in, The Church..
Gods word tells us; Mat 15:24 He said, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Isra'el."
Here in we see just how easy it can be to mis understand the Scriptures..
Blessings;