JESUS IS NOT GOD

[onewithhim]

I would very much like to get opinions on this subject. I'll provide several verses from the King James Version of the Bible, and I ask you to give me feed-back.


Jesus' words:

1) "Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise." (John 5:19)

2) "My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me." (John 7:16)

3) "Neither came I of myself, but he sent me." (John 8:42)

He replied, after the Pharisees accused him of making himself God:
4) "Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the SON of God?" (John 10:36)

5) "For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say....Whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak." (John 12:49,50)

6) To his Father in prayer: "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God , and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3)

7) "I ascend unto my Father, and your Father, and to my God, and your God." (John 20:17)

To John in the Revelation:
8) "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God..." (Revelation 3:12)



Do these quotations show that Jesus was NOT God?

Do YOU believe that he claimed to be God?

[OneWay]

If you notice all these people who oppose me
can not over come anything I say. All they can do is post the same one or 2 verse from the whole bible
and point to it and say to me...see this, this means WHAT I SAY IT MEANS and I AM RIGHT AND YOU ARE WRONG.
Then when I defeat it they repeat the same thing over again.

They have been brainwashed and indoctrinated by the doctrine of devils and men.

They are gone. It will take an act of God to rescue them from
the bondage they have been enslaved within.

Actually i believe Jesus--Matt 6:33- Therefore, keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his ( YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality)--Then one can accomplish this-John 4:22-24-- and unless one does Matt 6:33 they cannot accomplish John 4:22-24--and fail to do Jesus Fathers will-Matt 7:21

I do not care what you believe or don't believe.

Thats sad for you, because i just shared with you 3 teachings from Jesus found in every translation on earth. So actually you are rejecting Jesus truth.
Jesus said-no one comes to the Father but through me----The Father is the destination.

I think I am rejecting you.

When one posts what Jesus said and you reject the poster, you are as well are rejecting Jesus. The same with his real teachers- Those who reject them are rejecting Jesus and God it says-Luke 10:16
Jesus warned that some would do( or say) things against the real followers thinking they were standing for Jesus, Why? Because they did not know the one who sent him=Father=YHWH(Jehovah) John 15:20-21

Whoever or whatever told you or put the notion in your mind that you were born of God
and a child of God lied to you. And Jesus did not send you nor do you know Him.

Quoting from a book just makes you...
someone who quoted from a book.
That is all.

Nothing more nothing less.

I shared Jesus teachings--you rejected them because its you in darkness and do not know what he taught. Any building called-church teach little of what Jesus actually taught, i went to different ones looking for who taught what Jesus teaches, no church ever did, just very little of what he taught. Those teachers are paid to teach that religions dogma. Jw teachers teach us EVERY utterance from God as Jesus taught man must live by every utterance.

Show me in the bible where Jesus said he was an angel.
In fact show me anywhere in all the bible where anyone stated that Jesus
was and is an angel.

Firstborn of all creation( Coll 1:15)--fact= all creation occurred at the beginning.
The one beside God during the rest of creation = Gods master worker=Jesus-He tells all he was created at Prov 8.
1Thess 4:16--Upon Jesus return he comes with the voice of the archangel= its his voice.
Psalm 45:7--The Israelites knew 100% Jesus has a God-partners= Angels.
Hebrews 1:4-- He has become better than the angels because he inherited a name above theirs)-otherwise he was equal to the angels that is clearly showing.

The Spirit of wisdom
instructed me to ask you this question
about this doctrine you say is the truth.

Here is the question:
Was Jesus first born and then created or was Jesus created
and then became first born?

A. First born and then created
B. Created and then became first born
C None of the above.

Which one is the truth?

[kjw47]

Actually i believe Jesus--Matt 6:33- Therefore, keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his ( YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality)--Then one can accomplish this-John 4:22-24-- and unless one does Matt 6:33 they cannot accomplish John 4:22-24--and fail to do Jesus Fathers will-Matt 7:21

I do not care what you believe or don't believe.

Thats sad for you, because i just shared with you 3 teachings from Jesus found in every translation on earth. So actually you are rejecting Jesus truth.
Jesus said-no one comes to the Father but through me----The Father is the destination.

I think I am rejecting you.

When one posts what Jesus said and you reject the poster, you are as well are rejecting Jesus. The same with his real teachers- Those who reject them are rejecting Jesus and God it says-Luke 10:16
Jesus warned that some would do( or say) things against the real followers thinking they were standing for Jesus, Why? Because they did not know the one who sent him=Father=YHWH(Jehovah) John 15:20-21

Whoever or whatever told you or put the notion in your mind that you were born of God
and a child of God lied to you. And Jesus did not send you nor do you know Him.

Quoting from a book just makes you...
someone who quoted from a book.
That is all.

Nothing more nothing less.

I shared Jesus teachings--you rejected them because its you in darkness and do not know what he taught. Any building called-church teach little of what Jesus actually taught, i went to different ones looking for who taught what Jesus teaches, no church ever did, just very little of what he taught. Those teachers are paid to teach that religions dogma. Jw teachers teach us EVERY utterance from God as Jesus taught man must live by every utterance.

Show me in the bible where Jesus said he was an angel.
In fact show me anywhere in all the bible where anyone stated that Jesus
was and is an angel.

Firstborn of all creation( Coll 1:15)--fact= all creation occurred at the beginning.
The one beside God during the rest of creation = Gods master worker=Jesus-He tells all he was created at Prov 8.
1Thess 4:16--Upon Jesus return he comes with the voice of the archangel= its his voice.
Psalm 45:7--The Israelites knew 100% Jesus has a God-partners= Angels.
Hebrews 1:4-- He has become better than the angels because he inherited a name above theirs)-otherwise he was equal to the angels that is clearly showing.

I think it is wonderful, that you believe Jesus is an angel.

Yes the true God=Father=YHWH(Jehovah) sent his best=Michael.

[kjw47]

Actually i believe Jesus--Matt 6:33- Therefore, keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his ( YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality)--Then one can accomplish this-John 4:22-24-- and unless one does Matt 6:33 they cannot accomplish John 4:22-24--and fail to do Jesus Fathers will-Matt 7:21

I do not care what you believe or don't believe.

Thats sad for you, because i just shared with you 3 teachings from Jesus found in every translation on earth. So actually you are rejecting Jesus truth.
Jesus said-no one comes to the Father but through me----The Father is the destination.

I think I am rejecting you.

When one posts what Jesus said and you reject the poster, you are as well are rejecting Jesus. The same with his real teachers- Those who reject them are rejecting Jesus and God it says-Luke 10:16
Jesus warned that some would do( or say) things against the real followers thinking they were standing for Jesus, Why? Because they did not know the one who sent him=Father=YHWH(Jehovah) John 15:20-21

Whoever or whatever told you or put the notion in your mind that you were born of God
and a child of God lied to you. And Jesus did not send you nor do you know Him.

Quoting from a book just makes you...
someone who quoted from a book.
That is all.

Nothing more nothing less.

I shared Jesus teachings--you rejected them because its you in darkness and do not know what he taught. Any building called-church teach little of what Jesus actually taught, i went to different ones looking for who taught what Jesus teaches, no church ever did, just very little of what he taught. Those teachers are paid to teach that religions dogma. Jw teachers teach us EVERY utterance from God as Jesus taught man must live by every utterance.

Show me in the bible where Jesus said he was an angel.
In fact show me anywhere in all the bible where anyone stated that Jesus
was and is an angel.

Firstborn of all creation( Coll 1:15)--fact= all creation occurred at the beginning.
The one beside God during the rest of creation = Gods master worker=Jesus-He tells all he was created at Prov 8.
1Thess 4:16--Upon Jesus return he comes with the voice of the archangel= its his voice.
Psalm 45:7--The Israelites knew 100% Jesus has a God-partners= Angels.
Hebrews 1:4-- He has become better than the angels because he inherited a name above theirs)-otherwise he was equal to the angels that is clearly showing.

The Spirit of wisdom
instructed me to ask you this question
about this doctrine you say is the truth.

Here is the question:
When you obey Jesus
you are obeying...

A. God
B. Angel
C None of the above.

Which one is the truth?

Jesus only teaches what God told him to say,( John 5:19,30) Luke 22:42) And the Lords prayer to the Father--Thy will be done. So just as Jesus lives to do his Fathers will so do the true followers( Matt 7:21) so the answer would be God.

[kjw47]

Actually i believe Jesus--Matt 6:33- Therefore, keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his ( YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality)--Then one can accomplish this-John 4:22-24-- and unless one does Matt 6:33 they cannot accomplish John 4:22-24--and fail to do Jesus Fathers will-Matt 7:21

I do not care what you believe or don't believe.

Thats sad for you, because i just shared with you 3 teachings from Jesus found in every translation on earth. So actually you are rejecting Jesus truth.
Jesus said-no one comes to the Father but through me----The Father is the destination.

I think I am rejecting you.

When one posts what Jesus said and you reject the poster, you are as well are rejecting Jesus. The same with his real teachers- Those who reject them are rejecting Jesus and God it says-Luke 10:16
Jesus warned that some would do( or say) things against the real followers thinking they were standing for Jesus, Why? Because they did not know the one who sent him=Father=YHWH(Jehovah) John 15:20-21

Whoever or whatever told you or put the notion in your mind that you were born of God
and a child of God lied to you. And Jesus did not send you nor do you know Him.

Quoting from a book just makes you...
someone who quoted from a book.
That is all.

Nothing more nothing less.

I shared Jesus teachings--you rejected them because its you in darkness and do not know what he taught. Any building called-church teach little of what Jesus actually taught, i went to different ones looking for who taught what Jesus teaches, no church ever did, just very little of what he taught. Those teachers are paid to teach that religions dogma. Jw teachers teach us EVERY utterance from God as Jesus taught man must live by every utterance.

Show me in the bible where Jesus said he was an angel.
In fact show me anywhere in all the bible where anyone stated that Jesus
was and is an angel.

Firstborn of all creation( Coll 1:15)--fact= all creation occurred at the beginning.
The one beside God during the rest of creation = Gods master worker=Jesus-He tells all he was created at Prov 8.
1Thess 4:16--Upon Jesus return he comes with the voice of the archangel= its his voice.
Psalm 45:7--The Israelites knew 100% Jesus has a God-partners= Angels.
Hebrews 1:4-- He has become better than the angels because he inherited a name above theirs)-otherwise he was equal to the angels that is clearly showing.

The Spirit of wisdom
instructed me to ask you this question
about this doctrine you say is the truth.

Here is the question:
Was Jesus first born and then created or was Jesus created
and then became first born?

A. First born and then created
B. Created and then became first born
C None of the above.

Which one is the truth?

Prov 8:22-24

[OneWay]

I do not care what you believe or don't believe.

Thats sad for you, because i just shared with you 3 teachings from Jesus found in every translation on earth. So actually you are rejecting Jesus truth.
Jesus said-no one comes to the Father but through me----The Father is the destination.

I think I am rejecting you.

When one posts what Jesus said and you reject the poster, you are as well are rejecting Jesus. The same with his real teachers- Those who reject them are rejecting Jesus and God it says-Luke 10:16
Jesus warned that some would do( or say) things against the real followers thinking they were standing for Jesus, Why? Because they did not know the one who sent him=Father=YHWH(Jehovah) John 15:20-21

Whoever or whatever told you or put the notion in your mind that you were born of God
and a child of God lied to you. And Jesus did not send you nor do you know Him.

Quoting from a book just makes you...
someone who quoted from a book.
That is all.

Nothing more nothing less.

I shared Jesus teachings--you rejected them because its you in darkness and do not know what he taught. Any building called-church teach little of what Jesus actually taught, i went to different ones looking for who taught what Jesus teaches, no church ever did, just very little of what he taught. Those teachers are paid to teach that religions dogma. Jw teachers teach us EVERY utterance from God as Jesus taught man must live by every utterance.

Show me in the bible where Jesus said he was an angel.
In fact show me anywhere in all the bible where anyone stated that Jesus
was and is an angel.

Firstborn of all creation( Coll 1:15)--fact= all creation occurred at the beginning.
The one beside God during the rest of creation = Gods master worker=Jesus-He tells all he was created at Prov 8.
1Thess 4:16--Upon Jesus return he comes with the voice of the archangel= its his voice.
Psalm 45:7--The Israelites knew 100% Jesus has a God-partners= Angels.
Hebrews 1:4-- He has become better than the angels because he inherited a name above theirs)-otherwise he was equal to the angels that is clearly showing.

I think it is wonderful, that you believe Jesus is an angel.

Yes the true God=Father=YHWH(Jehovah) sent his best=Michael.

When he was here as Jesus was he a man or an angel?

A. Man
B. Angel

Which is the truth?

[OneWay]

I do not care what you believe or don't believe.

Thats sad for you, because i just shared with you 3 teachings from Jesus found in every translation on earth. So actually you are rejecting Jesus truth.
Jesus said-no one comes to the Father but through me----The Father is the destination.

I think I am rejecting you.

When one posts what Jesus said and you reject the poster, you are as well are rejecting Jesus. The same with his real teachers- Those who reject them are rejecting Jesus and God it says-Luke 10:16
Jesus warned that some would do( or say) things against the real followers thinking they were standing for Jesus, Why? Because they did not know the one who sent him=Father=YHWH(Jehovah) John 15:20-21

Whoever or whatever told you or put the notion in your mind that you were born of God
and a child of God lied to you. And Jesus did not send you nor do you know Him.

Quoting from a book just makes you...
someone who quoted from a book.
That is all.

Nothing more nothing less.

I shared Jesus teachings--you rejected them because its you in darkness and do not know what he taught. Any building called-church teach little of what Jesus actually taught, i went to different ones looking for who taught what Jesus teaches, no church ever did, just very little of what he taught. Those teachers are paid to teach that religions dogma. Jw teachers teach us EVERY utterance from God as Jesus taught man must live by every utterance.

Show me in the bible where Jesus said he was an angel.
In fact show me anywhere in all the bible where anyone stated that Jesus
was and is an angel.

Firstborn of all creation( Coll 1:15)--fact= all creation occurred at the beginning.
The one beside God during the rest of creation = Gods master worker=Jesus-He tells all he was created at Prov 8.
1Thess 4:16--Upon Jesus return he comes with the voice of the archangel= its his voice.
Psalm 45:7--The Israelites knew 100% Jesus has a God-partners= Angels.
Hebrews 1:4-- He has become better than the angels because he inherited a name above theirs)-otherwise he was equal to the angels that is clearly showing.

The Spirit of wisdom
instructed me to ask you this question
about this doctrine you say is the truth.

Here is the question:
When you obey Jesus
you are obeying...

A. God
B. Angel
C None of the above.

Which one is the truth?

Jesus only teaches what God told him to say,( John 5:19,30) Luke 22:42) And the Lords prayer to the Father--Thy will be done. So just as Jesus lives to do his Fathers will so do the true followers( Matt 7:21) so the answer would be God.

Do you worship Jesus?

A. Yes
B. No

[OneWay]

I do not care what you believe or don't believe.

Thats sad for you, because i just shared with you 3 teachings from Jesus found in every translation on earth. So actually you are rejecting Jesus truth.
Jesus said-no one comes to the Father but through me----The Father is the destination.

I think I am rejecting you.

When one posts what Jesus said and you reject the poster, you are as well are rejecting Jesus. The same with his real teachers- Those who reject them are rejecting Jesus and God it says-Luke 10:16
Jesus warned that some would do( or say) things against the real followers thinking they were standing for Jesus, Why? Because they did not know the one who sent him=Father=YHWH(Jehovah) John 15:20-21

Whoever or whatever told you or put the notion in your mind that you were born of God
and a child of God lied to you. And Jesus did not send you nor do you know Him.

Quoting from a book just makes you...
someone who quoted from a book.
That is all.

Nothing more nothing less.

I shared Jesus teachings--you rejected them because its you in darkness and do not know what he taught. Any building called-church teach little of what Jesus actually taught, i went to different ones looking for who taught what Jesus teaches, no church ever did, just very little of what he taught. Those teachers are paid to teach that religions dogma. Jw teachers teach us EVERY utterance from God as Jesus taught man must live by every utterance.

Show me in the bible where Jesus said he was an angel.
In fact show me anywhere in all the bible where anyone stated that Jesus
was and is an angel.

Firstborn of all creation( Coll 1:15)--fact= all creation occurred at the beginning.
The one beside God during the rest of creation = Gods master worker=Jesus-He tells all he was created at Prov 8.
1Thess 4:16--Upon Jesus return he comes with the voice of the archangel= its his voice.
Psalm 45:7--The Israelites knew 100% Jesus has a God-partners= Angels.
Hebrews 1:4-- He has become better than the angels because he inherited a name above theirs)-otherwise he was equal to the angels that is clearly showing.

The Spirit of wisdom
instructed me to ask you this question
about this doctrine you say is the truth.

Here is the question:
Was Jesus first born and then created or was Jesus created
and then became first born?

A. First born and then created
B. Created and then became first born
C None of the above.

Which one is the truth?

Prov 8:22-24

Here is the question:
Was Jesus first born and then created or was Jesus created
and then became first born?

A. First born and then created
B. Created and then became first born
C None of the above.

Which one is the truth in Prov 8:22-24?

[OneWay]

I do not care what you believe or don't believe.

Thats sad for you, because i just shared with you 3 teachings from Jesus found in every translation on earth. So actually you are rejecting Jesus truth.
Jesus said-no one comes to the Father but through me----The Father is the destination.

I think I am rejecting you.

When one posts what Jesus said and you reject the poster, you are as well are rejecting Jesus. The same with his real teachers- Those who reject them are rejecting Jesus and God it says-Luke 10:16
Jesus warned that some would do( or say) things against the real followers thinking they were standing for Jesus, Why? Because they did not know the one who sent him=Father=YHWH(Jehovah) John 15:20-21

Whoever or whatever told you or put the notion in your mind that you were born of God
and a child of God lied to you. And Jesus did not send you nor do you know Him.

Quoting from a book just makes you...
someone who quoted from a book.
That is all.

Nothing more nothing less.

I shared Jesus teachings--you rejected them because its you in darkness and do not know what he taught. Any building called-church teach little of what Jesus actually taught, i went to different ones looking for who taught what Jesus teaches, no church ever did, just very little of what he taught. Those teachers are paid to teach that religions dogma. Jw teachers teach us EVERY utterance from God as Jesus taught man must live by every utterance.

Show me in the bible where Jesus said he was an angel.
In fact show me anywhere in all the bible where anyone stated that Jesus
was and is an angel.

Firstborn of all creation( Coll 1:15)--fact= all creation occurred at the beginning.
The one beside God during the rest of creation = Gods master worker=Jesus-He tells all he was created at Prov 8.
1Thess 4:16--Upon Jesus return he comes with the voice of the archangel= its his voice.
Psalm 45:7--The Israelites knew 100% Jesus has a God-partners= Angels.
Hebrews 1:4-- He has become better than the angels because he inherited a name above theirs)-otherwise he was equal to the angels that is clearly showing.

I think it is wonderful, that you believe Jesus is an angel.

Yes the true God=Father=YHWH(Jehovah) sent his best=Michael.

How come it is an unforgiveable sin to blaspheme the Holy Ghost
but not Jesus or His Father? Is it because the Holy Ghost is greater than both of them?

[myth-one.com]

How come it is an unforgiveable sin to blaspheme the Holy Ghost but not Jesus or His Father? Is it because the Holy Ghost is greater than both of them?

Let us consider why the only unforgivable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit; where biblical blasphemy is the sin of assuming to oneself the rights or qualities of God.

In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth and placed angels on the earth as caretakers under supervision of the archangel Satan. However, Satan wanted more power. He wanted to be like the most high God:

Isaiah 14:12-14
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!... For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God... I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Not satisfied in being the ruler over the earth, Satan desired to be like the most High God. So he rebelled and attempted to usurp the power and authority of God. Satan thus committed blasphemy against God. God then created man a little lower than the angels during the Genesis recreation of the earth. Man is mortal but can become equal unto the angels when born again as a spirit at or after the Second Coming of Christ. Once man is born again as a spiritual body, he will be immortal and live forever. These new angels being created from mortal men and women will then assume the duties of the rebellious angels on earth.

If immortal replacements are being created to replace the rebels, then certainly one characteristic which they must not possess is that quality which caused the originals to fail! The original crew committed blasphemy against God, the creator of the earth. They rebelled against His creation and failed in their responsibility as earthly caretakers. The current day-to-day representative assigned to aid Christians on the earth is the Holy Ghost. Thus, the one unpardonable sin which man must not commit is this similar sin of blasphemy against the Holy Ghost!

God does not desire to create more immortal spirits with the same character flaw which caused the originals to fail.

[myth-one.com]

RE: Jesus Is Not God


John 1:1-3
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

The Word was God. And The Word, or God, created the heavens and the earth in the beginning.

Jesus Christ did not exist in the beginning. He came into existence in verse 14 of John chapter one:

John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

So God created the heavens and the earth -- not Jesus Christ.

And Jesus was a man:

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;