Matthew 12:40

rstrats · Post by **rstrats** » Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:46 pm

Whenever the three days and three nights of Matthew 12:40 is brought up in a â€œdiscussionâ€� with 6th day crucifixion folks, they frequently argue that it is a Jewish idiom for counting any part of a day as a whole day. I wonder if anyone has documentation that shows that the phrase â€œxâ€� days and â€œxâ€�nights was ever used in the first century or before when it absolutely didnâ€™t include at least parts of the â€œxâ€� days and at least parts of the â€œxâ€� nights?

InTheFlesh · Post by **InTheFlesh** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:45 pm

Time to shake off some rust.

I know this is not what you're looking for but here's what the bible says about it:

And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

So according to these scriptures, one night and one day equals ONE DAY!
Doesn't even our day start in darkness? 12am?

And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour

So prior to the sixth hour there was light (day), 3 hours of darkness (night)
after 9th hour (day) later that evening (night)
Saturday (day) Saturday night (night)

This formula equals 3 days and 3 nights according to the biblical definition of day and night in Genesis.

If you start with darkness first, 6th to 9th hour (night), then after 9th hour (day), Friday evening (night), Saturday (day) Saturday evening (night). This equals 3 nights and 2 days and resurrection on 3rd day.

Saying, The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be slain, and be raised the third day.

McCulloch · Post by **McCulloch** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:53 pm

[Replying to post 20 by InTheFlesh]

So every solar eclipse adds an extra day!? God added an extra period of darkness just so that the number of nights in the prophesy would add up?

Benoni · Post by **Benoni** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:15 am

This is what happens when you trust in the "letter that killeth".

InTheFlesh · Post by **InTheFlesh** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:58 pm

[Replying to post 21 by McCulloch]

So every solar eclipse adds an extra day!?

Does this scripture describe a solar eclipse?
And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour

God added an extra period of darkness just so that the number of nights in the prophesy would add up?

Did i hint at that or are you making a claim?

InTheFlesh · Post by **InTheFlesh** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:08 pm

[Replying to post 22 by Benoni]

This is what happens when you trust in the "letter that killeth".

Did this comment add anything to this debate?
Do you know another way to count days and months and years without using the sun?

The letter that killeth refers to the Old Testament law. We do not trust in law.
Under the law, we are all dead. We are able ministers of the New Testament.
We live by the spirit. The letter killeth but the spirit giveth life.
You added nothing and what you brought up was out of context.

REMINDER! This is the Doctrine Forum

Benoni · Post by **Benoni** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:41 pm

[Replying to post 24 by InTheFlesh]

Wrong. Millions of believers are not hearing the Spirit of God they are hearing their religions, creeds, dogmas, popes and pastors and could careless what the spirit of truth has to say inless it fits their bias and they are killing God's Word their letter of the Word which is man interpeted and man ordained.

InTheFlesh · Post by **InTheFlesh** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:32 pm

[Replying to post 25 by Benoni]

There is no point to debate against your personal opinion about other believers. You brought up "letter that killeth" and it was out of context. What doctrine are you bringing to the table for debate?

Once again, this is the Theology, Doctrine sub-forum!

Benoni · Post by **Benoni** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:47 pm

[Replying to post 26 by InTheFlesh]

Obviously you have nothing to debate or you would have something to say and no this is not my personal opinion. All I gave was an opening statement.

Just because you are a believer does not make you spiritual in fact most believers are not spiritual their very carnal and or religious.

InTheFlesh · Post by **InTheFlesh** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:55 pm

What doctrine would you like to debate?

All i hear from you is opinion, opinion, opinion.

Benoni · Post by **Benoni** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:26 pm

InTheFlesh wrote: What doctrine would you like to debate?
All i hear from you is opinion, opinion, opinion.

Doctrine?

How about answering a simple question?
What makes something spiritual?