[Replying to post 295 by JehovahsWitness
IS ALMIGHTY GOD A PERSON?
IS GOD THE ONLY SPIRIT PERSON THAT EXISTS?
- Yes absolutely. GOD is not a human person, he is a spirit person. A spirit person is an intelligent individual with a spirit body. A spirit person is a non-physical being capable of rational self generated thought, and capable of making moral decisions that govern that one's actions (free will).
IS THE HOLY SPIRIT A "PERSON"?
- No. God was the only spirit person in existence before he created other intelligent spirits like himself. The first and foremost was THE WORD, the mighty spirit person that later came to earth as the human Jesus. Later God made many millions of other intelligent non-physical spirit person's, we often refer to these as " angels". Humans cannot see spirits but spirits can see humans.
Further reading : Who is Jesus Christ?
- No, in the bible "holy spirit" refers to God's active force or power. One could think of it as what God "zaps" people with. Holy spirit is simply Gods power, the force uses to get things done. Much like the wind or electricity holy spirit is something not someone.
For a more detailed response on HOLY SPIRIT please follow this link
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 826#413826
NOTE All posts I write represent my personal faith based beliefs as one of Jehovah's Witnesses
Well, for my part, I fail to see how anyone can read John 14 and not acknowledge that God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are three distinct living beings. You agree that God and Jesus are distinct persons, so we can proceed directly to the Spirit.
In John 14, Jesus is speaking with His disciples. In verse 16 and 17, it is undeniable that Jesus is distinguishing between the Father, Himself, and the Spirit, and describing the Spirit's role as necessary and different from God's and His own in accomplishing and bringing to completion the great act of salvation/redemption. He says:
..." (Jesus, of course)
"... will ask the Father
, ..." (God)
"... and He
"... will give you another Helper
, ..." (the Holy Spirit)
"... that He
..." (bolded third-person personal pronoun referring to the Holy Spirit) "... may be with you forever;..."
"... that is the Spirit of truth, whom
the world cannot receive, because it does not see Him
or know Him
..." (all bolded third-person personal pronouns referring to the Holy Spirit)
"... but you know Him
abides with you and will be in you." (bolded third-person personal pronouns referring to the Holy Spirit)
And then skipping down to verse 26, Jesus again refers to the Holy Spirit in very personal terms and further defines His role:
"But the Helper,..." (the Holy Spirit)
the Father will send in My name, He
will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you." (bolded third-person personal pronouns referring to the Holy Spirit)
So unless Jesus is reckoned to be somehow "mistaken," the Holy Spirit is another living being -- person -- distinct from God the Father and Jesus.
And, I'll pull in another thread here: Jesus indeed clearly acknowledges Himself as God (but God the Son, not God the Father) in John 14. He says to His disciples, "If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him." Philip, not quite grasping the full breadth of what Jesus is saying, says, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us." To which Jesus replies, "Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me?" (vv 7-10) At the end of that passage, Jesus tells His disciples to keep His commandments. His commandments. As in, "I am the LORD thy God; you shall have no other Gods before me..." and every single one that follows.