Galatians 1.(Paul)
"11 Now I want you to know, brothers, that the gospel preached by me is not of human origin. 12For I did not receive it from a human being, nor was I taught it, but it came through a revelation of Jesus Christ."
My friend Ralph, who fell off his bicycle and hit his head on the way to Damascus (Oregon), makes the same claim.
He says he has divine knowledge with he gets straight from Jesus Christ.
If we believe Paul, shouldn't we believe Ralph too?
If not, exactly why not?
Does Ralph receive divine knowledge from Christ?
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Re: Does Ralph receive divine knowledge from Christ?
Post #3Thomas Paine would call either claim "hearsay". Paine does not exclude the possibility of Almighty God bestowing direct revelation on a given individual, but when the individual in question tells another, then it becomes hearsay and no one is obliged to believe it.polonius wrote: Galatians 1.(Paul)
"11 Now I want you to know, brothers, that the gospel preached by me is not of human origin. 12For I did not receive it from a human being, nor was I taught it, but it came through a revelation of Jesus Christ."
My friend Ralph, who fell off his bicycle and hit his head on the way to Damascus (Oregon), makes the same claim.
He says he has divine knowledge with he gets straight from Jesus Christ.
If we believe Paul, shouldn't we believe Ralph too?
If not, exactly why not?
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Re: Does Ralph receive divine knowledge from Christ?
Post #4We know Paul and His gospel of grace. What is Ralph's gospel?polonius wrote: Galatians 1.(Paul)
"11 Now I want you to know, brothers, that the gospel preached by me is not of human origin. 12For I did not receive it from a human being, nor was I taught it, but it came through a revelation of Jesus Christ."
My friend Ralph, who fell off his bicycle and hit his head on the way to Damascus (Oregon), makes the same claim.
He says he has divine knowledge with he gets straight from Jesus Christ.
If we believe Paul, shouldn't we believe Ralph too?
If not, exactly why not?
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.
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Re: Does Ralph receive divine knowledge from Christ?
Post #5It all depends on what Ralph preaches.. And anyway i do not need to know who is inspiring Ralph.. I have Gods Word revealed in the Holy Bible.. So i have all i need to know.. Ralph might be able to sprinkle a little sugar on top but Ralph is not going to be able to change the fundamental teachings of the Gospel..polonius wrote: Galatians 1.(Paul)
"11 Now I want you to know, brothers, that the gospel preached by me is not of human origin. 12For I did not receive it from a human being, nor was I taught it, but it came through a revelation of Jesus Christ."
My friend Ralph, who fell off his bicycle and hit his head on the way to Damascus (Oregon), makes the same claim.
He says he has divine knowledge with he gets straight from Jesus Christ.
If we believe Paul, shouldn't we believe Ralph too?
If not, exactly why not?
Re: Does Ralph receive divine knowledge from Christ?
Post #6If we believe Paul, shouldn't we believe Ralph too?
If not, exactly why not? [/quote]
REPLY:
"Thomas Paine would call either claim "hearsay". Paine does not exclude the possibility of Almighty God bestowing direct revelation on a given individual, but when the individual in question tells another, then it becomes hearsay and no one is obliged to believe it.[/quote]
RESPONSE: Then doesn't your claim make ALL scripture hearsay?
If not, exactly why not? [/quote]
REPLY:
"Thomas Paine would call either claim "hearsay". Paine does not exclude the possibility of Almighty God bestowing direct revelation on a given individual, but when the individual in question tells another, then it becomes hearsay and no one is obliged to believe it.[/quote]
RESPONSE: Then doesn't your claim make ALL scripture hearsay?
Re: Does Ralph receive divine knowledge from Christ?
Post #7RESPONSE: Neither Paul nor Ralph wrote any "gospels." Only letters (epistles).Wootah wrote:We know Paul and His gospel of grace. What is Ralph's gospel?polonius wrote: Galatians 1.(Paul)
"11 Now I want you to know, brothers, that the gospel preached by me is not of human origin. 12For I did not receive it from a human being, nor was I taught it, but it came through a revelation of Jesus Christ."
My friend Ralph, who fell off his bicycle and hit his head on the way to Damascus (Oregon), makes the same claim.
He says he has divine knowledge with he gets straight from Jesus Christ.
If we believe Paul, shouldn't we believe Ralph too?
If not, exactly why not?
And about half of Paul's are recognized as having had another author.
Re: Does Ralph receive divine knowledge from Christ?
Post #8Adstar wrote:It all depends on what Ralph preaches.. And anyway i do not need to know who is inspiring Ralph.. I have Gods Word revealed in the Holy Bible.. So i have all i need to know.. Ralph might be able to sprinkle a little sugar on top but Ralph is npolonius wrote: Galatians 1.(Paul)
"11 Now I want you to know, brothers, that the gospel preached by me is not of human origin. 12For I did not receive it from a human being, nor was I taught it, but it came through a revelation of Jesus Christ."
My friend Ralph, who fell off his bicycle and hit his head on the way to Damascus (Oregon), makes the same claim.
He says he has divine knowledge with he gets straight from Jesus Christ.
If we believe Paul, shouldn't we believe Ralph too?
If not, exactly why not?
ot going to be able to change the fundamental teachings of the Gospel..
REPLY: Really? Did God tell you in a vision like Paul's or did you just hear the claim from somebody?
Is the New Testament reliable history?
Post #9In Matthew chapter 2 we are told that someone named Jesus was born during King Herod's lifetime (Herod died in 4 B.C.) This would be Jesus#1.
But in Luke chapter 2 we are told that Jesus was born during the 6AD Judean census.
This would be Jesus#2.
Only one Jesus is reported to have been crucified. Is the other one still around?
But in Luke chapter 2 we are told that Jesus was born during the 6AD Judean census.
This would be Jesus#2.
Only one Jesus is reported to have been crucified. Is the other one still around?
Re: Does Ralph receive divine knowledge from Christ?
Post #10If Ralph isn't asking for my money, time, worship....he's the man!polonius wrote: Galatians 1.(Paul)
"11 Now I want you to know, brothers, that the gospel preached by me is not of human origin. 12For I did not receive it from a human being, nor was I taught it, but it came through a revelation of Jesus Christ."
My friend Ralph, who fell off his bicycle and hit his head on the way to Damascus (Oregon), makes the same claim.
He says he has divine knowledge with he gets straight from Jesus Christ.
If we believe Paul, shouldn't we believe Ralph too?
If not, exactly why not?
History has been full of Ralphs. And will continue to be (assuming we all survive the virus)
None have seemed to have fulfilled their objectives.